Cardinal George Pell Senior Member of the Vatican on Sex Charges in Australia to stand Trial.

by smiddy3 10 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Cardinal George Pell will return to court in a fortnight ,he has been committed to stand trial relating to multiple complainants .

    Magistrate Belinda Wallington struck out about half the charges including the most serious of them .

    Cardinall George Pell denies all charges against him.

    The world media is watching the outcome of this Trial He is the most senior member of the Vatican to be charged with such an offence and by, all people , Australians who have conducted their own ARC into Institutionalized Child Sexual Abuse Of Children .

    We wait with baited breath ( for a just outcome ) in all of these investigations .

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    Smiddy, I believe child protection is your field. I am sure you will be able to use your knowledge and expertise to help analyse what comes out.

    Incidentally, did you notice the leaked video about the WT policy of destruction of records. They reckon they will destroy 99% of all data in any form. Can you imagine how that would affect this case?

  • shepherdless
    shepherdless

    I don't know anything about the case, apart from what I have read in the media, and there has been very little description in the media (at least in what I have read) about the details of the charges.

    At this stage, unless something new comes to light, my prediction would be that Pell is found not guilty of all remaining charges.

    Just another point. I might well be wrong, but isn't it the case that Pell is facing "sexual abuse" claims, but nothing concerning an underage person?

  • humbled
    humbled

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/29/world/australia/ballarat-church-sexual-abuse-pell.html

    abuse is deadly silent for do long. Everyone thinks “it’s just me”

    Just look how it goes on so much!

    thanks for posting this, smiddy

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Slidin Fast - "They reckon they will destroy 99% of all data in any form."

    Yeah, no way that'll ever come back and bite 'em on the ass.

    Seriously though, I still kinda scratch my head over why they kept such stringent records in the first place.

    The only thing I can think of is that they were initially trying to prevent sex offenders from serving as elders and MSs, but there ended up being so many (and such a shortage of qualified guys "reaching out") that... the opposite happened...?

  • cofty
  • cofty
    cofty

    Come Home Cardinal Pell by Tim Minchen

    [Verse 1]

    It's a lovely day in Ballarat

    I'm kicking back, thinking of you

    I hear that you've been poorly

    I am sorry that you're feeling blue

    I know what it's like when you feel a little shitty

    You just want to curl up and have an itty-bitty doona day

    But a lot of people here really miss you, Georgie

    They really think you ought to just get on a plane

    (Just get on a plane)

    We all just want you to...

    [Chorus 1]

    Come home, Cardinal Pell

    I know you're not feeling well

    And being crook ain't much fun

    Even so, we think you should

    Come home, Cardinal Pell

    Come down from your citadel

    It's just the right thing to do

    We have a right to know what you knew

    [Verse 2]

    Couldn't you see what was under your nose, Georgie

    Back in '73 when you were living with Gerry?

    Is it true that you knew but you chose to ignore

    Or did you actively try to keep it buried?

    And years later, when survivors

    Despite their shame and their fear

    Stood up to tell their stories

    You spent year after year

    Working hard to protect the church's assets

    I mean, with all due respect, dude

    I think you're scum!

    And I reckon you should...

    [Chorus 2]

    Come home, Cardinal Pell

    (Cardinal Pell)

    I know you're not feeling well

    Perhaps you just need some sun

    It's lovely here, you should

    Come home, you pompous buffoon

    (Pompous buffoon)

    And I suggest do it soon

    I hear the tolling of the bell

    And it has a Pellian knell

    [Bridge]

    I want to be transparent here, George:

    I'm not the greatest fan of your religion

    And I personally believe that those

    Who cover up abuse should go to prison

    But your ethical hypocrisy

    Your intellectual vacuity

    And your arrogance don't bother me as much

    As the fact that you have turned out to be such

    A goddamn coward

    You're a coward, Georgie

    (You're a coward, George)

    Come and face the music, Georgie

    (Face the music, George)

    You owe it to the victims, Georgie

    (You owe it, George)

    Come and face the music, the music

    Hallelujah, hallelujah

    If the Lord God omnipotent reigneth

    He would take one look at you and say:

    (One look at you and say)

    [Chorus 3]

    "Go home, Cardinal Pell

    I've got a nice spot in hell

    With your name on it and so

    I suggest you toughen up and...

    "Go home, Cardinal Pell

    I'm sure they'll make you feel wel-

    Come at the pub in Ballarat

    They just want a beer and a chat"

    Come home, Cardinal Pell

    (Cardinal Pell)

    I know you're scared, Georgie-Poo

    (Come home)

    They have a right to know what you knew

    Your time is running out to atone, Georgie

    I think the Lord is calling you home, Georgie

    Perhaps he could forgive even you

    If you just let them know what you knew

    [Outro]

    Oh, Cardinal Pell

    My lawyer just rang me to tell

    Me this song could get me

    In legal trouble

    Oh well, Cardinal Pell

    If you don't feel compelled

    To come home by a sense

    Of moral duty

    Perhaps you will come home and fricking sue me

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    My limited understanding of the charges against Cardinal George Pell is that he knew of offences committed by other priests in his charge one in particular and covered them up and moved offending priests around to different parishes .

    Over a period of many years and was instrumental in keeping a lid on the abuse to the detriment of the victims.

    All the time protecting the image of the Church from any wrongdoing.

    I don`t know that their have been any specific charges of sexual abuse to anyone by Cardinal Pell himself .

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    Isnt this the guy who said he'd never report child abuse to the authorities if it was reported to him?

  • karter
    karter

    As much as i have no time for the catholic church i take my hat of to Pope francis for telling him to go back to Australia and face trial.

    Cardinal Pell was in the Vatican and it's a sovereign state so the Pope could have let him stay there indefinitey.

    There seems to be alot of evidence against him ut he will have a platoon of smart as lawyers and appeals if he is found guilty.

    Karter.

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