This should make most reasonable people stop believing in the Bible as infallible

by ILoveTTATT2 17 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • ttdtt

    How about this one - Moses is given full credit for writing Deuteronomy.

    How did he write about his death and burial and how no one knows where his grave it till this day?

    Deut 34: 5 After that Moses the servant of Jehovah died there in the land of Moʹab just as Jehovah had said.+ 6 He buried him in the valley in the land of Moʹab, opposite Beth-peʹor, and nobody knows where his grave is down to this day.+ 7 Moses was 120 years old at his death.+ His eyes had not grown dim, and his strength had not departed. 8 The people of Israel wept for Moses on the desert plains of Moʹab for 30 days.+ Then the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were completed.

  • Island Man
    Island Man

    Hey, thanks for giving me a great idea for a question.

  • ILoveTTATT2

    Cool Yahoo question Island Man!!

    There are some in my FB page that are debating over the 50 silver / 600 gold question. I don't buy their explanations. But even if I did, they'd have to explain the others in that chapter, and even if they did that, they'd have to explain thousands more contradictions!

  • schnell

    @ttdtt and Vidiot as well,

    Indeed! Whenever it says "to this day" or talks about Moses' death, it's a giveaway that this wasn't written at the time but much later. It explains so much.

    King Josiah needed propaganda. If it's true that he was a kid made king, then it makes even more sense, not less. He wanted power. He wanted conquest. The words penned under his dynasty should not be taken as historical fact and have henceforth affected every single person who's ever had the Bible forced on them.

    As you learn about the lack of integrity of the Holy Bible, Sean Carroll's Problem of Instructions comes to mind.

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    Here's a list of biblical contradictions that I made up.

    A Most Evil and Stupid Book

    The Moral Depravity, Absurdities

    and Contradictions of the Bible

    OLD TESTAMENT (Jewish Bible)

    1. Will the real Ten Commandments please stand up? Two different versions of the Ten Commandments that contradict each other: Exodus 20:1-17 compare to Exodus 34:1-27.

    2. How the former slaves of Israel treated their own slaves:

    Ø Non-Israelites could be taken as slaves for life and their children passed off as an inheritance: Leviticus 25:44-46 compare to Leviticus 19:33-34 where it says the exact opposite.

    Ø A Hebrew slave was obligated for only six years of slavery but had to leave behind the wife his master gave him along with his children: Exodus 21:2-6.

    Ø A master was allowed to savagely beat his slave so long as he or she did not die within a day or two: Exodus 21:20-21 compare to Exodus 2:11-12.

    Ø If a slave had an eye blinded by his master he was to be set free but his master was not blinded in punishment according to the rule of an ‘eye for an eye’ that applied to other people guilty of the same crime: Exodus 21:26-27 compare to Leviticus 24:19-21.

    3. Exterminate thy neighbors:

    Ø All of them some of the time: Deuteronomy 3:1-6.

    Ø Men only at other times. Women and children are plunder: Deuteronomy 20:10-18.

    Ø Everyone except virgin girls when the mood strikes: Numbers 31:17-18.

    Ø Take captive brides after killing their mother and father: Deuteronomy 21:10-14.

    4. How the Israelites treated their ladies:

    Ø If a single woman was raped, her rapist was punished by being forced to marry her, never divorce her and paying a fine to her father: Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

    Ø Women got their hands cut off for defending their husbands if they yanked his attacker's testicles: Deuteronomy 25:11-12.

    Ø If an engaged or married woman was raped she was to be executed if she failed to scream: Deuteronomy 22:23-24.

    Ø A woman had to prove her virginity or be stoned to death: Deuteronomy. 22:13-21.

    Ø A man could sell his daughter into permanent slavery: Exodus 21:7-11.

    5. God had someone killed for gathering firewood on a Saturday: Numbers 15:32-36.

    6. God cannot see well: Genesis 18:20-21; Deuteronomy 23:12-14.

    7. God has a lot of trouble counting:

    Ø King David kills 700 charioteers and 40,000 horsemen or is it 7,000 charioteers and 40,000 foot soldiers? 2 Samuel 10:18 compare to 1 Chronicles 19:18.

    Ø King David kills 18,000 Edomites, or is it 12,000? 1 Chronicles 18:12 compare to Psalms 60 chapter title.

    Ø King Solomon’s slave supervisors numbered 550 or 250? 1 Kings 9:20-23 compare to 2 Chronicles 8:7-10.

    Ø A talent for exaggeration (Hint: A talent equals 75 lbs): 1 Chronicles 22:14.

    8. God Unmighty! God miraculously saved the Israelites from Pharaoh’s chariots Exodus 14:23-25 but later he could not handle another nation’s chariots Judges 1:19.

    NEW TESTAMENT (Christian Bible)

    1. Jesus miraculously heals muteness, blindness and curved spines by exorcising demons.

    Ø He makes blind and mute people see and talk by exorcising demons that possessed them: Matthew 12:22 and Luke 11:14.

    Ø Jesus casts out demons that were responsible for a woman being a hunchback: Luke 13:10-13, 16.

    2. Jesus curses a fig tree for not having fruit out of season: Mark 11:12-21; Matthew 21:18-20.

    3. Jesus curses entire towns for not being impressed by his miracles but later asks God to forgive his murderers: Matthew 11:20-24 compare to Luke 23:34.

    4. John the Baptist recognizes Jesus then later forgets who he is: John 1:29-34 compared to Matthew 11:2-3.

    5. False prophesies of Jesus and his followers:

    Ø The Messiah (“Son of Man”) will come before his disciples finish preaching in Israel. Matthew 10:21-23.

    Ø Jesus will be back before some disciples die but later claims he said something else. Matthew 16:28 compare to John 21:21-23.

    6. The crucifixion. Two tales of two thieves: Matthew 27:38-44 and Mark 15:27-32 compared to Luke 23:39-43.

    7. Jesus blesses the “peacemakers” but later says that he came not to bring peace to the earth but “a sword” by dividing families: Matthew 5:9 compare to Matthew 10:34.

    8. Christian view on women:

    Ø Women should shut up in church: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35.

    Ø Women should wear a head covering on their heads in church: 1 Corinthians 11:3-6.

    Ø Women should not teach men: 1 Timothy 2:11-15.

    9. Christian view on slavery: 1 Peter 2:18-20.

    10. Disappearing verses: John 7:53-8:11.

    11. Multiple endings for Jesus’ departure: Mark 16:9-19.

  • Bugbear

    ILoveTTATT 2

    Interesting thread. I am very glad that some take up the subject of the parallel accounts. I think there are more of them than an average JW dubs know about. In fact I think 1/3 of the whole OT, its only copies of copies of copies… When the old Hebrews wrote these “scrolls” they used only what was available in the local synagogue. In fact many of these copiers were illiterate men that just copied what their eyes saw. They could not even read what they were copying. And another fact is that they were coping from SCROLLS….not codex format. Which made it almost impossible to check the other synagogue scrolls. The amount of wholly scrolls grew by the time, and nobody had access to the “original texts”. And the masses of text scrolls grow…. When Athanasious about 350 a.C. decided what was within Canonic scriptures….. He had no Idea that most of them were only copies and copies and copies (and in many cases wrong translations) from Hebrew, Aramaic and Coptic scriptures. It was impossible for him to read all the scrolls and find that they were exactly the same texts (but of course with all the misinterpreting’s and wrong spelling) the “copiers” made.

    There are faculties’ in many universities that are trying (with modern computer technology) to find out exactly which texts are copied. And on most universities there are available computer solutions to find out if you are just coping another text when you are writing an Essay. Of course you are dismissed if you try.


    This should make most reasonable people stop believing in the Bible as infallible

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  • nicolaou

    Goodt topic, it was one of those chapters that bugged me years ago . .

    2 Samuel chapter 24 - Don't mess with God!

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