Too Much Discontent in Congregation Part 1

by Simon Templar 17 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Simon Templar
    Simon Templar

    I am seeing and hearing many, many long-time JWs openly expressing problems with either the Watchtower Society itself, the publications, changing doctrine, incorrectly living their lives as a result of bad doctrine, the behavior of the BOE and other related things. I will share some of these things in several posts, because there are just too many of them. The complaints that I hear from publishers and pioneers are many. Its best for me to relate them in pieces.

    Here's one:

    Yesterday afternoon after the meeting, a sister who is in the truth for about 65-70 years was chatting with me. Based on previous conversations that I have had with her, I said. "The Watchtower study that we just had was unusual. They were discussing that we should be lead by our trained conscience. Since when? They have been telling us what to do for years, and that they would tell us anything that we need to know, so don't worry about it." She replied, "I know. That study was so F*n boring. I could hardly stay awake. If we didn't do what they tild us to do, they'd throw us out." This woman is at least 75 years old. I couldn't believe her speech to me. Right in front if the KH. She could care less she is so angry with things.

    Here is another one:

    I am out in FS recently with a pioneer sister. We are going door-to-door. We have a very good personal relationship. We were just talking about things that came to mind. She mentioned by specific name several of the Elders, how she thinks that they are really unqualified and that through time, people dying, moving away, etc, we (everyone in the region) are left with bodies of Elders who really are unqualified, but appointed for inexplicable reasons. The result is that the meeting parts are not really good, the Sunday talks are blah or terrible, the Ministry School counsel is ridiculous in some cases, etc. Her main problem is that in the congregation and with the BOE specifically, no one cares about the "sheep" anymore. She doesn't feel appreciated for her efforts, or cared for personally anymore. She doesn't like the way things are, and she has started complaining about it.

    Where I live, it feels as if many active publishers and others are feeling discontent, to say the least, and can't hold it in any longer. The "Generation" is a biggy. I hear all kinds of complaint about that all the time.

    More on this subject in other posts in the future.

  • ToesUp

    Good to hear. Keep us updated. We are looking forward to reading additional stuff. We have been out for almost 3 years and have been curious what is going on in the ranks.

    One thing we noticed is that when we bring up some issues we had while still in, with still in family members, they are not denying things or defending the org like they used to. They also admit that they are no longer donating.

  • Gayle
    Are their complaints just at the 'local' level? That was common even many years ago. But do they possibly still think 'but at the top' - at Bethel headquarters all is near 'perfect.'
  • Crazyguy
    I had an elder tell me once he didn't like non anointed in the writing department but it's odd that your able to get people to open up. The only other thing I saw was the way a brother pioneer preached in service he was more Christian in his approach. But other then that I'm supprised any one say much at all since being in this cult is like living in north Korea.
  • LoveUniHateExams
    Interesting OP but you're no Saint yourself ...
  • Magnum
    I agree with ToesUp. Please keep us updated. I realize these are just anecdotes, but I think enough anecdotal evidence can be generalized to be indicative of the big picture.
  • steve2

    Are their complaints just at the 'local' level? That was common even many years ago. But do they possibly still think 'but at the top' - at Bethel headquarters all is near 'perfect.'

    Gayle raises a vital question. Complaining about the local bodies of elder is hardly new. Local congregations have always had their fair share of malcontents who are dissatisfied with specified elders but who still believe the organization is under Jehovah's direction.

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    If there is a great deal of discontent and displeasure among the rank and know there is also as much discontent and displeasure among the BOEs in all congregations!

    Just another day in paradise!

  • Londo111

    On occasion, JWs will let their hair down and if they feel secure will express pretty blatant criticisms. But at the end of the conversion they will “wait on Jehovah” in regard the “imperfect men” who are “taking the lead”.

    These very people will turn you in if their “aposta-alarm” goes off.

  • TheListener
    Did the older lady really drop the F word? If so she's more rogue than you know.

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