The right to record your judicial committee meeting

by UnshackleTheChains 27 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • UnshackleTheChains


    We have often heard secret recordings online of JC hearings. But, what I would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their Judicial hearings?

    For example. Supposing I was to attend a judicial committee and I explained up front that I would like to record the proceedings and then place a dictaphone on the table. Are the elders breaking the law by not allowing me the right to record the meeting?

    Any thoughts?

  • scratchme1010
    I would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their Judicial hearings?

    I know that in my city is not legal to record the meeting without them knowing and consent. It may be different in other places, as it's a local city ordinance.

    You can do whatever the law allows you. As much as they claim that they are above that, it's made up bullshit. Your rights don't disappear just because they say so.

  • FedUpJW

    But, what I would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their Judicial hearings?

    Sure you can...but the second the recorder comes out the judicial meeting will end.

  • jp1692

    UTC, there is a significant difference between whether or not someone has the "right" to do something and whether or not it is legal, which is not the question you asked.

    I would assert that we all have the right to record a JW judicial meeting even if it is illegal in your particular jurisdiction. In many locales, recordings must be explicitly approved and agreed to by all parties, so you better check before you plan to record a judicial committee meeting. Since JW elders will never agree to it, any recording would have to be done surreptitiously and without the permission of the elders. Therefore, if one were to secretly record a judicial meeting, they would be breaking the law in many jurisdictions. That, however, does NOT mean it is wrong.

    But whenever an individual commits a deliberate, intentional act of civil disobedience and breaks a law because they think it is wrong, they also better be prepared to accept the possible consequences. This could possibly mean fines and or jail time. But frankly I think that's a pretty remote possibility given the circumstances. (But this is must my opinion and is explicitly NOT meant to be legal advice!)

    Here, for your reading pleasure and edification, is an older thread that explores both HOW to record a judicial meeting as well as various reasons WHY and/or why you may not want to do that.


  • jp1692

    Follow-up to my previous post: Why not "Just say no!" to the meeting, refuse to go and be done with the whole mess?

  • Bobcat

    Here is a web page, with some links, that help with your question.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    As scratchme1010 said, it is a matter of local law. There really is no such thing as "universal rights."

    When a person becomes a JW by submitting to the ritual baptism and answering "YES" to the questions asked them, they become members of a closed society and have agreed to abide by the laws of that closed society.

    Break those laws and unleash "sturm und drang".

  • Giordano

    Obedience is more important then faith in the JW Congregation. And most Elders being pretty ignorant and petty never want to hear their stupidity recorded. But they certainly enjoy all the detailed sexual questions they get to ask.

  • UnshackleTheChains

    Hey folks. Thanks for the replies, including the links. Very helpful 😉

  • purrpurr

    As I understand it, you can record whatever you want, its only if you plan to use that in a court of law that you need to get permission first. Even then the judge's these days will sometimes allow it if it's vital evidence

    Think about all the cctv etc that records you... they don't ask your permission do they?

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