Watchtower Bible And Tract Society Urging Town Of Ramapo To Act On Its Application In Timely Manner

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  • AndersonsInfo
    AndersonsInfo

    https://rcbizjournal.com/2022/03/22/watchtower-urging-ramapo-to-act-on-its-application/?fbclid=IwAR2AkHf6Eq1RRMhIHRz4fqDqmf99l_JmkH7Pcx70p6OLUnqFrvUspomer-E

    By Tina Traster

    March 22, 2022

    Over the past eight months, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has reviewed public and other comments on its proposed development for 155 Sterling Mine Road in Ramapo and has revised its plans.

    On Monday, the applicant was prepared to present its FEIS (Final Environmental Impact Statement) and hoped the Ramapo Town Board would accept its submission as “final,” to move on to review by the Rockland County Planning Department.

    Instead, the board deferred making decisions, seemingly because they did not have enough time to review some newly submitted documents by the activist group ROSA.

    “We’re asking the board to take action on the ‘FEIS’,” said Attorney Ira Emanuel. “If you don’t like it, change it. Do it. We want to move the process forward. We need finality.”

    The project architect echoed Emanuel’s frustrations.

    “We’ve put in 600-man hours for this review,” said Keith Cady, the project’s architect. “We hope we’ve addressed all the issues. We want to move forward to respond to questions.”

    The town will hold another public hearing Wednesday, March 23, to consider acceptance of the FEIS.

    The 1.7 million square-foot project, known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is slated for 155 Sterling Mine Road in largely Ramapo and partly in Tuxedo in Orange County. Of the 249 acres, 242 are located in Ramapo; the balance is in Tuxedo.

    The religious order, known as the Worldwide Order of Special Full Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses, is hoping to build an A/V production center with audio and video production studios and facilities to support operations of the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The facilities include offices, maintenance and set production workshops, and a central chilled/hot water plant with geothermal heat recovery system. Accommodations for resident staff include 645 residential units (545 one-bedroom and 100 studio units), dining/assembly spaces, recreation/wellness/fitness facilities, and a clinic.

    The project also includes a Visitors Center, which would welcome the public to the campus and offer Bible-related exhibits as well as exhibits on the activities of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    The proposal would rezone the portion of the project site within the Town of Ramapo to a new MU-3 Mixed-Use Zoning District to permit the applicant to develop an integrated residential and commercial campus.

    The Ramapo portion of the project site was previously subdivided into 293 lots for the “Sterling Mine Road Active Adult Community,” which was commonly known as the “Lorterdan Project.” No physical improvements were made to the property following the subdivision approval.

    However, the proposal requires an amendment to Ramapo’s 2004 Comprehensive Plan to remove references to the former Lorterdan development because it is not consistent with the previous Lorterdan plan and the zoning recommendations that would have implemented that development.

    In response to concerns over the scope of the project, the applicant has proposed building heights up to 75 feet in exchange for designating half of the acreage as preserved open space. Currently, the proposed MU3 district allows for building heights up to 45 feet. The applicant said that because of the topography, 75 feet buildings would appear smaller than the 45-foot buildings.

    The applicant is also seeking inclusion of a “Conceptual Development Special Permit (CDSP)” which would ensure that the concept isn’t fundamentally altered from its original plan when the final site approval is completed. Essentially such a permit plan would limit the planning board’s powers.

    Also, Watchtower is hoping to sweeten its application by asking the town to only allow MU-3 uses in parcels that exceed 200 acres. This would preclude a subdivision of its site, which the applicant presumably views as an incentive to the town.

    The religious order purchased the land in 2009 for $11.5 million.

    The project site is heavily forested with native tree growth and large granite bedrock outcroppings and wetlands, according to DEIS. Of the 249-acre site, approximately 9.3 acres (3.7 percent) are wetlands and approximately 12 acres (4.8 percent) are bedrock outcroppings.

    Following the May 26 public hearing, the applicant acquired a .15-acre easement in the Town of Tuxedo to improve access to the project site. At the request of the Tuxedo Planning Board and the Orange County Department of Public Works, and as part of a separate project, Watchtower will abandon the existing dirt driveway that provides direct access to the site and construct a four-way intersection with Eagle Valley Road, Sterlington Road, and Sterling Mine Road. Access to the site would be gained via an easement from Sterlington Road, which also provides access to the existing Sisters Servants of Mary Immaculate and St. Joseph’s Adult Care Home.

    The town will consider necessary changes to the Comprehensive Plan and the Watchtower’s proposed zoning amendments at an April 27 public hearing.


  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    Who is rosa? No comments otherwise except I do not like the money grubbing

  • AndersonsInfo
    AndersonsInfo

    Regarding the question, "Who is ROSA?" see:

    https://rosa4rockland.org/rosa-101/

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    The Watchtower doesn't want their plans altered, but it is ok to "alter" the Bible to their liking.

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    The applicant is also seeking inclusion of a “Conceptual Development Special Permit (CDSP)” which would ensure that the concept isn’t fundamentally altered from its original plan when the final site approval is completed.

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    Atlantis!

  • WingCommander
    WingCommander

    Things I noted:

    "recreation/wellness/fitness facilities" ---- Oh??? You mean the very ammenities you deny your pauper rank-n-file members who you get all the money from? How many WatchTower articles and talks over the years have we heard about "not building up one's body" and that joining gyms and fitness clubs are a "Waste of time, because they distract and detract from the preaching work"????? Regular JW's are made to feel guilty for having 30 mins a day for themselves, right from the literature, but the High and Mighty up at WT HQ get only the best!!!! I noticed this YEARS ago when I saw the plans for the new WT HQ in Warwick. Couldn't believe my eyes!!!

    "Rules for thee, but not for me!"....come to mind. Fuggin' hypocrites.

    Also, I'd like to point out the irony......the fuggin IRONY, that WT is replacing what once was plans for an adult retirement community, with plans for a multi-story A/V production studio, and there is absolutely NOTHING in their plans for a WT retirement community? Oh wait.....I forgot.....they've already got that for their Elite at Fishkill!! (the luxury homes/condos/townhouses they bought and just kept for the cream-of-crop-retires)

    Also of note is that access will be gained from an existing entrance to a Catholic Adult Care Home. Can't use the YMCA for the pool (oh wait, they've got their own, duh!) but they can use the Catholic's existing road for access to their own facilities? When WT HQ can benefit from "Babylon the Great", there's no problem at all.....Nosiree!!!!

    Again, what a bunch of fuggin' Hypocrites these false prophets and crooks are!

  • wannaexit
    wannaexit

    Could not have said better myself WingCommander:

    what a bunch of fuggin' Hypocrites these false prophets and crooks are!
  • nowwhat?
    nowwhat?

    They have said how they have seen Jehovah's hand in this project. Wouldn't it be great if they were denied the permit to build after going through all this time and expense!

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    WING COMMANDER:

    I totally agree with your post.

    Reading this makes me glad I never took anything the JW religion said seriously.. I made sure I planned for MY retirement/old age. After all, they have planned for theirs with these compounds they have with all the amenities!! ..As for physical fitness: common sense tells you to care for yourself and keep your trap shut about how you do it.

    Sorry for all the ‘friends’ who ate everything up like cake:.. pursuing poverty/giving money they could ill afford; asking for ‘direction’ for every stupid move they made and telling their business to everybody; letting their bodies get soft in some cases not taking care of dental needs, etc. Personally, I mostly ignored all the intrusive crap I heard there. I’m so Glad today that I did!

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    How can a 65 foot building appear small than 45? Same math as generation? I suppose a smaller footprint would leave more open ground ( parking lot?), but tall things block views.

    I am always torn on groups like ROSA. are they activists for good or nimby types.

  • WingCommander
    WingCommander

    A 75 foot building can easily appear shorter than a similar 45 foot building in the area due to the terrain and grading. This isn't some new concept they just came up with.

    SOURCE: my 25+ years in the world of architecture/engineering/construction.

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