Jehovah's Love - or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Death

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This idea was inspired by another post I saw (but forget who or where) referencing the mootness of delaying Armageddon now that the 1914 generation is gone. (I just skimmed over the post and thread, and didn't give it much thought until later)

WT doctrine basically says that Jehovah, through his undeserved love, allows wickedness so that people can hear, and accept, the 'truth', thus being saved from the destruction of Armageddon. Now, here's the problem. The longer Armageddon is 'delayed', the more human life is set up to be destroyed. Look at 130 years of WT existance. Assuming that this is the one true religion, it's apparent after 130 years, most people of this world aren't accepting that fact. Yet, this old system lingers and lingers, the population increases, more people join the ranks of those to be destroyed, while the ranks of the 'faithful' remain bascially stagnant.

The world population hit 2 billion around the year 1927. Had Jehovah destroyed the wicked in 1914, 1918, 1919, or 1925, as predicted and hoped for, then that's 5 to 6 billion people who would have never suffered destruction. Better to not be born than to have the rug yanked out from under your feet by a vengeful god.

Of what use is it to wait? The world population is increasing exponentially (compared to JWs anyway). Delaying - or allowing more time before, in JW parlance - Armageddon is not allowing 'more' people to be saved, but is adding 'more' people to the list to be destroyed.

Nice god you have there, Watchtower.

sir82

WT doctrine basically says that Jehovah, through his undeserved love, allows wickedness so that people can hear, and accept, the 'truth', thus being saved from the destruction of Armageddon.

Sometimes they say that, sometimes they say something different. The message changes depending on what point they want to emphasize.

In last week's WT study, for example, they state that Jehovah has determined, far in advance, the exact date that Armageddon will occur. So there is no "delay" - he's waiting, not for more people to "join his organization", but rather, until his celestial alarm clock goes off.

From paragraph 4 of that article:

We, however, do not know. It is imperative that we stay watchful until the tribulation occurs. Yet, the timing of that event has never been uncertain to Jehovah. He has determined exactly when the end will come. He is counting down the time to the start of the great tribulation, and its start “will not be late!

Dagney

That is my thinking. I posted it on here some years ago. There have been multiple predictions for the end times, 1000AD etc. If god REALLY love mankind SOOOO much, why not bring the lesson when fewer lives would be lost? And start the paradise sooner rather than later?

There is no good reason/rationale for this line of thinking.

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In last week's WT study, for example, they state that Jehovah has determined, far in advance, the exact date that Armageddon will occur. So there is no "delay" - he's waiting, not for more people to "join his organization", but rather, until his celestial alarm clock goes off.

Yea, they've always said, 'it's not delayed, it's on track' (even tho a lot of dubs don't subscribe to that exactly). But that actually makes for an interesting point. An all knowing, omnipotent god would have to know that the world's population would increase as it has. He is the ultimate mathmetician afterall. And knowing that the population would increase to billions, why would he wait that long, unless he's a sadist (don't answer that). He didn't wait too long from Adam to Noah to put a stop to things. At least the world's population was significantly lower back then.

And of course, that raises the question of just how ominpotent he really is, if he has to destroy everything every so often to keep his subjects in line?

It actually goes back to your comment,

Sometimes they say that, sometimes they say something different. The message changes depending on what point they want to emphasize.

they just make up shit as they go along. None of it really makes sense if you really ponder it long enough.

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I remember wondering that as a kid, but was also put downfor asking to many questions.

sir82

Yes of course it is all nonsensical gibberish.

For example, why have a "final test at the end of the thousand years", if Jesus proved that a perfect man could remain faithful in even the worst of situations? The issue is already resolved, no?

And the whole "universal sovereignty" folderol - don't even get me started on that.

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Jesus is supposed to have compared Armageddon to the flood. Only 12 out of the whole world survived;-- tens of thousand were building Pyramids in Egypt alone, so perhaps the present population is allowed to expand to bring the ratio of "survivors / killed babies et al" into line with the floods numbers?

That wold have saved Billions of people the agony of death....

OR, when the 'flood' happened!

That too gave the chance to start a fresh!...but in only one lifetime things went bad again??

It is almost like God likes waiting till there is a large number ready to be destroyed!

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