Fossilized foot prints, how do they explain it away?

by Crazyguy 31 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Crazyguy

    So there have been many sets of fossilized human footprints found in africa, Italy, Europe, Britain and New Mexico. These foot prints are thought to be anywhere from 20,000 to 2 million years old. So what do Christians and JWs do to try to explain these away. And is there any legitimate arguments by scientists that these prints could be much younger?

  • blondie

    The WTS teaches that each creative day is 7,000 years with 6 of then leading up to the creation of Adam and Eve at the end of the 6th.

    42,000 years, but dinosaurs somewhere in the middle

    The WTS just says the scientists are wrong. When they agree with the WTS they are right, but when they disagree they are wrong.

    *** g90 2/8 p. 11 What Happened to the Dinosaurs? ***

    The Genesis Account and Dinosaurs

    While the radioactive dating method is innovative, it is still based on speculation and assumption. In contrast, the Bible account in the first chapter of Genesis simply states the general order of creation. It allows for possibly thousands of millions of years for the formation of the earth and many millenniums in six creative eras, or “days,” to prepare the earth for human habitation.

    Some dinosaurs (and pterosaurs) may indeed have been created in the fifth era listed in Genesis, when the Bible says that God made “flying creatures” and “great sea monsters.” Perhaps other types of dinosaurs were created in the sixth epoch. The vast array of dinosaurs with their huge appetites would have been appropriate considering the abundant vegetation that evidently existed in their time.—Genesis 1:20-24.

    When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, God ended their life. But the Bible is silent on how he did that or when. We can be sure that dinosaurs were created by Jehovah for a purpose, even if we do not fully understand that purpose at this time. They were no mistake, no product of evolution. That they suddenly appear in the fossil record unconnected to any fossil ancestors, and also disappear without leaving connecting fossil links, is evidence against the view that such animals gradually evolved over millions of years of time. Thus, the fossil record does not support the evolution theory. Instead, it harmonizes with the Bible’s view of creative acts of God.

  • A Ha
    A Ha

    {Fundamentalist] Christians say radiocarbon dating is unreliable. Scientists say it's reliable(written by a Christian).

  • Crazyguy

    Blonde they dropped the 7000 year creative days back in 2013. As for radio carbon dating, fossils are way old and it's pretty common knowledge that it takes a very long time to turn something in to a fossil so radio carbon dating maybe irrelevant.

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    Excellent book, well worth the price for its 500 pages (oversized and fine print) of exhaustive information on every aspect of the evolution/creation debate.. It has a chapter on those dinosaur prints that Creationists interpreted to be the footprints of giants (the nephilim).

  • konceptual99

    The 7000 year long creative day argument has not been 100% fully rejected. What they have said is that the creative days could be many 1000s of years long, allowing for a time range from their old doctrine right up to the 4.6 billion years that science suggests. They are not so dogmatic about 7000 years but they've not said anything that puts the idea completely to bed.

    Of course, most modern day Witnesses just go with the science as it's less controversial however there are still ones around who think of far shorter timescales, some still thinking the dinosaurs were around with Noah. I know - some of them are in my congregation....

    The current WT stance allows them to be pedantic about suggesting they agree with the scientific community without ever really distancing themselves from a position that weakens their secular credibility, It's doublespeak just like their silly statements about creationism.

  • blondie

    Crazyguy, the WTS may have stopped mentioning it but many older jws still remember it and the basis of the 1975 end and the chronology of creation. The WTS merely says thousands (not millions) of years rather than 7,000 years.

  • konceptual99

    Yup - it's a case of looking at what the WTS actually says rather than what they would like to think they say.

    Sure they don't have a position that is 100% in opposition with science anymore but the way it is cached is hardly a ringing endorsement for science and critical thinking.

  • smiddy

    What I remember about the WT interpretation of Genisis and Creation is this.: ( 1960`s onward )

    Gen.1:1 "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" That statement stands alone , it could have happened millions of years ago .

    Verse 2 onwards is confined to the preperation of the earth for humans to live on.

    The 7000 years as a timespan for a creative day came about of their Bible chronology that humans since Adam have been on earth for 6000 years ending in 1975 ( previously they thought 6000 years ended in the late 1800`s )

    Gods rest at the end of the 6th day ,and Jesus Christ 1000 year rule would have been appropiate to begin around 1975 , culminating in a 7000 year creative day.

    P.S. Fossilised dinosaur bones have , and are , still being discovered in Queensland Australia to this day along with fossilised footprints , it is a vast project in motion....AAoD , Australian Age of Dinosaurs.

    Jehovahs Witnesses are well known for having their head in the sand , as well as having their head stuck up their ( well you know where ) I was one of them .

  • schnell

    As my still-in friend said. . . "What evidence?"

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