the bible god can not lie, but promotes lying prophets, today's wt study

by waton 11 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • waton
    waton

    study 32, Par 7 , cites 1 King 19-22 to prove that "Jehovah" humbly asks angels their opinion. -- not true, in effect

    The request was: who is going to go forth and lie for us, give a false prophecy?

    true, various method suggested might have been entertained, but in the end it was "jehovah" who gave the command to launch the false prophecy campaign.

    This is a wt mind control tactic to plant in the Rank & File the idea, that it is ok to be a false prophet. Just like the Jonah dilemma to preach destruction, with a deadline, only to see an all fore-knowing god waffle on him. and:

    Jesus humbly did not foretell the timing of the end, "for only the father knows", but

    wt inc writers have no such qualms or humility.

    wt writers, elders should be prepared to have their actions questioned, it has happened with justification to better persons than them!.

  • waton
    waton

    In the cited bible passage, not only does god allow the lying false prophets io start their eception, but assures them of their success, while the true prophet languishes in prison. so,

    by using this twisted story as a prop for the "humility" of the bible god, wt writers imply that in some cases ( possibly their's), would be supportive of false prophets. in other words,

    all of wt prophetic failures are really the creator of the universe's fault.

  • JoenB75
    JoenB75

    https://theresolved.com/the-two-wills-of-god

    https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/are-there-two-wills-in-god

    I dont know if jw has ever discussed this, probably not.

    But basically you have the upholding hidden God on one side and the revealed God Jesus on the other side. It becomes a bit too reality oriented for the liberal critical mind, but reason would have that the Creator is not merely telling us how we should be but is also pulling the strings behind the curtain, ultimatively "for good" (Genesis 50:20)

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    The WT concludes that those with authority aught to be humble enough to listen to the opinions of others.

    9 Parents and elders, what can you learn from Jehovah’s example? Consider how you respond when those under your authority question your decisions. Is your initial reaction to correct them? Or do you try to understand their point of view? Families and congregations surely benefit when those in authority imitate Jehovah.

    Ha Ha Ha!

    Try doing that with anyone in authority any where in the organisation. Try writing to a member of the GB or branch committee etc. See what happens.

  • Clarkey
    Clarkey

    The bible also warns about false prophets , those who say things that god has not given them to say, it also warns of ones who say things that are not written.

    The instruction to avoid these ones if they are false teachers.

    The instructions handed out by Jesus is quite clear upon those who set dates of his kingdom, for not even he knows of the time but only the father.

  • waton
    waton

    JB: thanks for the links, to sum up:

    This 'the end justifies the means' of god's dealings would , if true,

    be very hard on the recipients at the lower end, and in the spirit of the article. Would a humble god not be eminently concerned with the little ones, even of the birds, that have only one life to live?

  • waton
    waton

    We, who can not stand to "prepare for the meetings" any more

    miss blondie, who gave us advance notice to pick up wt craftiness in these "studies".

    suffering through the zoom ruminations is bad enough. but revealing imHo

  • apostatethunder
    apostatethunder
    Should they spell it to the r&f?
  • Overrated
    Overrated

    As we all know Watchtower invented "information Spinning " and Fake News to fit their own agenda.

  • JoenB75
    JoenB75

    Waton, I dont know the study, I just reacted to your headline. Clearly this is a problem to JW theology. I dont recall ever reading about the two wills of God in either Russell or any jw publication. But logically it makes sense that as God's ways are not our ways, God's doings will not always make sense and believers outside jw tradition will not expect them to. As I have said before, jw has not made it easy for themselves in this field and it is probably why we have this odd phenomen that most x jws turn atheist; it all stands and falls with that peculiar WTS authority

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