Politics and Hope

by lriddle80 53 Replies latest jw friends

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard
    My hope is that in 2120 we will look back and shake our heads at 2020 and before for the same reason we shake our heads at 1920 and before.

    Yeah, but you have to be careful here. If, by 2120, the world has a socialist resurgence, it wouldn't be meaningful if all those socialists look back, shake their heads at 2020 in ignorance, as they progress through their short starvation-filled lives.

  • lriddle80
    lriddle80

    I guess I was wondering if you put all your trust to make the world better on political leaders and if they keep failing, what else is there for you?

    The human spirit of never giving up?

  • waton
    waton

    long term hope has not come from politics *, but with scientific knowledge applied well.

    wt (and other) religions picture us as falling farther and lower from "perfection", but the opposite is true.

    hope? hopefully, procreation will be throttled back, energy use curbed. our improved genes passed on. joy of life continued.

    * during my vivid memory, a recent political system offered a 1000 year reign. thankfully it was reigned in at 12.

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard
    I do not trust the government to make the world a better place. Every occurrence of the world becoming better was in spite of government, not because of it.
  • lriddle80
    lriddle80

    Al Gore (and others probably) was predicting the climate changes that we see today unless we act, but the people that were placed in the political positions to help this coming crisis didn't believe him and the scientists and so here we are at a potential irreversible climate situation that we caused (according to scientists).

    And I guess we can hope to escape earth and live on Mars, but that doesn't really sound realistic and a lot of people are going to die trying to make that happen, if it ever does.

  • lriddle80
    lriddle80

    MeanMrMustard

    I love that you said that ever occurence of the world becoming better was "in spite of" the government, not because of it!

    When I look at my own life in trying to help others, it's always "in spite of" me because inevitably I would fail in "my" efforts, but the person gets helped anyway! I believe God does his best work "in spite of" humanity, but still uses humanity to do it...even government sometimes!

  • pistolpete
    pistolpete
    ne
    lriddle80

    I was thinking about all of advances in technology and things like stoves and air conditioning. But now we have an advanced, maybe irreversible climate problem most likely caused by these advances, so I don't know it was such a good idea to become so advanced.

    There are several theories out there that hypothesize that the more advance a species gets, the closer it gets to the “Filters” that will prevent it from advancing to much.

    One of these “Filters” is that civilizations Destroy themselves when they reach a certain point. For example once they learn how to build Nuclear Weapons, it only a matter of a few hundreds years before someone decides it is time to end it all and thus pave the way for a new species to climb the ladder to the top.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWphqA1Slrw

    Killer epidemics could wipe out the entire human species before a solution is developed, paving the way for a new species to climb the ladder.

    Overpopulation could force world leaders and politicians to come up with a plan to cull the herd. Your average citizen would have no idea what is happening.


    There is actually some speculation that the Covid virus was deliberately created to cull the overpopulation problem and get rid of the old and sickly people, since they are more of a drain on finite resources instead of adding ideas, and labor to earth’s diminishing resources.

    Are we at that point in the scale of approaching one of those filters?

    You tell me. From a high of 70,300 active weapons in 1986, as of 2019 there are approximately 3,750 active nuclear warheads and 13,890 total nuclear warheads in the world. Many of the decommissioned weapons were simply stored or partially dismantled, not destroyed ---------meaning that humans still have access to them.

    Considering how some countries armed with Nukes, hate each other to the max, like India and Pakistan, it wouldn’t take long for ONE OF THEM TO START SOMETHING and then the whole world join in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-iNWaBZ3-w

    Another great “Filter” would be the same thing that happened to Dinosaurs,--a giant meteor or a possible storm of Asteroids struck the planet earth and wiped them all out, leaving room for a new species to rise to the top of the chain,----Homo Sapiens.

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard
    Al Gore (and others probably) was predicting the climate changes that we see today unless we act...

    I think he predicted Miami would be under water some time ago - fish swimming in the streets and all. He had a considerable percent error....

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard
    When I look at my own life in trying to help others, it's always "in spite of" me because inevitably I would fail in "my" efforts, but the person gets helped anyway! I believe God does his best work "in spite of" humanity, but still uses humanity to do it...even government sometimes!

    You should be careful here. The many millions of dead, slaughtered in the killing fields of totalitarian governments, surely wasn’t “God using humanity” for “his best work.”

  • lriddle80
    lriddle80

    So, if homo sapiens get wiped out...all that passion, fighting for what's right, love, all of the epic dramas being played out and the intricate connections... We and all our history burns up, leaving no remaining memories of mankind.

    So, it WAS all for nothing after all!

    You could say it's man's narcissistic nature to feel like our lives are worth something and it can be hard to accept that our lives are worthless and so are we, but we have to make it better for the next worthless life.

    I think our lives are intricately woven together playing out an epic story of a redeeming Savior saving people who are worthless for an ultimate crescendo of God, man, and creation becoming one. But, that's later...I just try to love the person in front of me and make them feel cared for.

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