"New Light" on "New Light"

by new boy 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • new boy
    new boy

    Of course, the leaders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses can never say they were ever wrong about anything. The reason for this is that the leaders have told everyone a thousand times over, including in their publications, that this organization is run directly by God Himself. We are told that the “Governing Body” gets all their information directly from God. How else could God’s only true religion on Earth be run? That is why in their 150 plus year history, there has never been an apology. (Even with the 1975 debacle, they blamed the publishers for “reading too much into the date” and not themselves. More on this soon.)

    However, despite God running the place, the leaders have screwed up and changed their minds and policies over the years. They have done this on dozens of occasions.

    Since God can never be wrong, they had to come up with the term “new light.” The old light isn’t wrong of course. It could never be. It’s just the “new light” is much better and brighter than the old light. Very clever don’t you think?

    Here are some of the few examples of how “the new light” has come into play or as they say “the light has gotten brighter” over the years.

    On whether or not the gay men of Sodom would be resurrected to the paradise Earth:

    1879: These men will be resurrected.

    1952: The light gets brighter. These men will not be resurrected.

    1965: More “new light.” These men will be resurrected, for sure.

    1988: Jehovah apparently changed his mind once again. These men will not be resurrected!

    How about the separating of the "sheep and the goats ” during the judgment period?"

    1919: It will take place after the time of tribulation.

    1923: It is taking place now, before the tribulation.

    1995: Guess what? The light gets brighter. It will take place after the time of tribulation.

    Then you have the ‘Lord’ in Romans 10: 12-16

    1903: 'Lord' refers to Jesus.

    1940: The light gets brighter? 'Lord’ refers to Jehovah.

    1978: The light gets dimmer? 'Lord' refers to Jesus.

    1980: The light gets brighter once again? 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.

    These are just a few of the hundreds of things the Society has changed their mind on over the years.

    They say they are directed by god himself and they say he never lies. So why would their god Jehovah give so much false or misleading information over the years? How and why would he flip flop so many times?

    Seems light from god might be on a on a dimmer switch sometimes, brightening the light and dimming it once again.

    But who knows, maybe it’s not God changing his mind about all this stuff. It’s just a bunch of confused old church leaders, just like in the other religions in the world who all claim God is only talking to them.

    If this “new light” stuff is pretty confusing, just ask Jehovah’s Witnesses about it. They won’t be able to explain it either.

  • Spiral

    New boy, you are spot on.

    The fact that the GB can "flip flop" on key doctrines through the years, and yet be seen to be progressive and improving.... really, it's just brilliant (in that cult sort of way).

    They are directly by God and yet not inspired and yet infallable until new light comes and they change their minds.... who else could get away with this kind of thing and still be credible?

    Only in JW land could this happen!

  • carla

    Try to pin a jw down on new light, spirit directed but not infallible, and so on and it's like herding cats. Try to show a jw that the light is blinking on and off and they stop listening, get the deer in the headlights look and completely shut down. Then try bringing up the fact that if no new light has been brought forward then the old light is still in effect. I suggest finding the most ridiculous stuff, maybe from the Harp of God or some other old publication and they think you are just being silly.

    Sometimes you just gotta stop hitting your head against that wall and sigh. Though it is fun to bring up all the goofy stuff to non jw's who know nothing and get their responses!

  • Drearyweather

    Can you also please state the publication reference next to the year? It would be good to read the reasons why they decided to change the viewpoint.

  • snugglebunny

    Oral sex:

    • a disfellowshipping offence 1974
    • no longer a disfellowshipping offence 1978
    • once again a disfellowshipping offence 1983 ongoing
  • smiddy3

    This would be an appropriate time for someone to post C.T.Russells explanation of what new light should be which contradicts and exposes the new light explanations the current Governing Body members put over their members.

    " New light should illuminate a previous held belief , not replace it with a totally new belief " which the governing body of Jehovah`s Witnesses now do .

    Somebody please ?

  • tiki

    Just a side thought regarding snugglebunny comment....so...the couple does the blow job thing with 2 witnessing the act...who subsequently squeal...and the couple on the carpet either don't own up or do they just say it was a good time..no guilt...and get df....or are they just stupid and go blabbing about their private matters and elderette gets wind of it and all hell breaks loose. Maybe it's me....I just don't get how someone sex life would get to be common knowledge and dfable in dubdom unless the individuals themselves were yapping about it in which case I consider them pretty stupid.

    Back to old New backward upward upside down light..... lets face it...they don't know what they're talking about.

  • new boy
    new boy

    Good question Tiki

    It usually goes this way.

    A married couple who have been enjoying good oral sex before they become JWs stop doing this activity now that they heard the truth about it. That it was something only Satan could have invented. In the heat of passion fall prey to temptation once again and do the unthinkable. Now one of the two (usually the wife) knows there is only one thing she must do. She must go to the elders and lay bare her and her husbands transgression.

    The three "brothers" who happen to be elders, none of whom have a college education. In fact one is a janitor, one is a car salesman (who used to watch porn late at night himself) and last brother who hasn't worked for years (because Armageddon is coming any day) will want to know in every detail how this act was preformed. They will want to know what she was feeling when this activity was happening....did she feel guilty.... what was she thinking...was she thinking about field service? Or maybe she was thinking about how she and her husband could be DFed for this and thus be killed at Armageddon.

    I hope this information has been helpful.

  • ShirleyW

    About 1975, in May 1974 Kingdom Ministry, Page 3 - "Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end-1John 2:17."

  • FedUpJW

    ...unless the individuals themselves were yapping about it in which case I consider them pretty stupid.

    DING...DING...DING!! We have a winner folks!

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