HLC confidentiality

by shadowclone 13 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • shadowclone
    Lots of hospitals have hired jw's as bloodless care manager. If they find out that a jw agrees to take blood, what is their protocol in such a case? USA scenario so HIPPA is a factor.
  • DesirousOfChange

    Hospital would be liable if their employee broke HIPPA confidentiality. If that kind of thing happens expect the lawyers to get in line. Hospitals have deep pockets. If they can prove WTS “encourages” JW employees to break HIPPA — now there is another set of deep pockets!!!

  • mickbobcat

    sue them all. If a JW is not a fringe hanger on they will report the taking of blood to the elders. that is for sure.

  • shadowclone

    Any actual experiences?

  • Biahi

    Isn’t that like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse?

  • jhine

    Or Dracula in charge of the blood bank 😂


  • DesirousOfChange

    Official policy now says taking a transfusion is not a DF'ing matter. Quite simply someone has "left the faith" (DA'd) by their choice (actions) if they are not repentant about caving in a moment of spiritual weakness when agreeing to accept a transfusion.

    This way WTS can claim that they take no punitive action against one accept blood transfusions to save their life or the life of a loved one. Of course, we know that when they say that person has by their own choice disassociated themself, it means the same damn thing.

  • BluesBrother

    This d/a thing would surely never stand up in court . If a claimant showed that he was being treated as a pariah by his former friends and family , and he had not wished to leave the faith. It could easily be demonstrated that Witnesses do not shun those who simply leave the faith. So it is d/f by another name.

    I am interested in this statement that US hospitals hire JWs as "bloodless treatment managers" . Can we be specific about this? Examples?

    It is something you don't see in the UK

    NB .. if he is a HLC member...... talk about putting your JW training to material gain!

  • Diogenesister
    It is something you don't see in the UK

    Yes bloodless care is not really a thing here. I guess there are also many more JWs in the USA than anywhere else (and I think it will become more so that way I think as time progresses. America will be it's last hold out). Also US hospitals generally have more money to employ specialist staff being mostly private. When it works and a person is fully insured, US healthcare is unbeatable. They cater for every need and have cutting edge treatments.

    The NHS would struggle to employ an extra cleaner at this point.

    I wonder are there any other groups who don't take blood?

    I think if only one case of breaking Hippa can be proven in this type of instance they will pretty soon stop the practice.

    I do know there have been instances within GP surgery settings (primary health care).

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    Question. Hired? HCLA elders are volunteers, not employees. And they are supposedly for encouragement but the real reason is enforcement.

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