If Evil was Ugly, Wouldn't it be Easier?

by metatron 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • metatron
    metatron

    During WW2, the Japanese were caricatured as ugly little squint-eyed people.

    During WW1, the Germans were portrayed as "Huns".

    Life would be so much easier if evil - and evil people - were ugly, slavering, monsters, instead of all-too-ordinary humans.

    I would like to utterly hate the blind, cold-hearted men who run the Watchtower, but I also realize that any image of them as

    monsters falls short.

    Example: Let's examine the case of Brother P.

    He's been helping the Writing Staff for many years. He has, on occasion, actually allowed a few traces of real truth

    to leak out of the publications - indirect admissions, that sort of thing. He may have favored some honest release of

    discussion about abuse in the organization. He has had a heart condition and privately worried that Jehovah may not bring

    Armageddon for MANY years because they may "have to preach to China".

    He helped with at least one vile witch-hunt in the '80's that ruined the life of a defenseless 90 year old brother.

    He has been pointedly criticized for using deceptive out-of-context quotations from secular sources when writing

    the publications, especially regarding evolution and other scientific matters. He may have had a direct role in

    encouraging NGO status in the UN for the Watchtower. When confronted with these matters, he gets exasperated

    and angry.

    Reformer? Monster? Fraud? Nice Old Guy just trying to get by and survive in a hostile environment?

    You decide. Much the same applies to all the rest of these elderly Theocrats. It would be much easier

    to think of them as secret-reptilian-Illuminati-Mason- cultists and thereby hate them

    than to be forced to consider them as ordinary shmoes , who probably aren't much different

    from the Nazis and Soviets who went to work each day, without much thought as to what they

    were supporting.

    I wish evil was ugly.

    metatron

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus

    As I mentioned in another post, Hitler was a non-smoker, a vegetarian, loved children and animals and hated dirty jokes. But is that his lasting legacy?

  • tinkerbell82
    tinkerbell82

    I especially wish this rule applied to men.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    LOL! Tink.

    .... and women, thank you very much.

  • tinkerbell82
    tinkerbell82

    ooh i agree six...would that mean i get an upgrade on looks if i promise to be VERY good? ;)

  • ninecharger
    ninecharger

    When will anyone realise that I (9) and the the others posting on this thread are the MOST GORGEOUS of all.....

    Monk3y - lost your chance ... a post here will just be admitting YOU want some of our gorgeousness...

    9

  • blondie
    blondie

    Few child molesters are ugly, scary people. That is why it is such a problem teaching children to be wary. They cultivate being nice, unscary, warm and friendly to lure children into their plans.

    Yes, we must teach children and adults that ugly doesn't equal evil.

    Ted Bundy was one cute guy and dangerous when he got you alone.

    Blondie

    Blondie

  • SYN
    SYN

    A very good post, Meta. You make an important point - evil isn't always black and white...it's when a whole bunch of people like that get together that the fit hits the shan...

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Interesting post.

    In past discussions some people (non on this thread, this is just observation) have focused on the level of personal responsibility of JW's for their actions. They have put forward the idea that JW's (as individuals) are evil.

    I can never agree to this as a blanket statement.

    For a start, they are in a cult - perhaps more usfully for this discussion we should say they are in a 'high control group'. For me, this immediately makes personal attacks on people simply on account of their being a JW meaningless, as obviously, to one extent or another, they are not responsible for their actions. Some have disagreed with this view, but I always wonder what part of the phrase 'high control group' they don't understand.

    Lets face it, it's what most of us once were, we know we acted in ways we now wouldn't act, we know we did that because of how we had been influenced, and our personal experience is pretty sure to be representative of the lives of most of the poor sods who are in the Borg. To try and resolve it as an issue of individual moraility is silly.

    Having said that, I don't think we can completely shrug of individual responsibility. Most of us probably had twinges, intuitions, misgivings that we could have acted on sooner than we did. But the entire environment we existed in made acting on those very hard, as it meant going against peer groups, conditioning, family and those we saw (at the time) as being in rightful postions of responsibility. So, although we can't deny all personal responsibility, we shouldn't feel guilt, because we truely were not not ourselves. We were just acting in response to our pre-programmed cult buttons.

    I think many of us would have reacted to those buttons in the same way whether we had never got to handle mikes or were on the writing desk. Some horse pull carts, other run races, but they all react to the crack of a whip. Belief and faith are terrible things, as people can sincerely, genuinely, and with good intentions act in the most terrible way because of it.

    Only an individual can know if they KNEW they did wrong, if they deliberately and with knowledge, to use the writing department example, used clever techniques to argue in a manner designed to leave the reader with a false impression. If they were so caught up in it they believed it themselves, they were as deceived as most of us. I know (mug that I am) I really did believe. I'm thankful I never converted anyone, but if I had, it would have been out of belief. Not out of a desire to control or dominate.

    But just as you get bad apples, so you get nasty people. You get them everywhere, it's not the preserve of JW's. You can put an asshole into the Borg, and you'll still have an asshole. You can take an asshole out of the Borg, you'll still have an asshole. There are those who will use the cult as an environment in which they can control and dominate people. There have been arguments about whether paedophiles deliberately target the Borg - and they do, unless for some reason the Borg is the only environment that paedophiles do not seek out because of the way it gives them contact with children, as paedophiles are known to target such environments and professions to more easily purse the object of their sickness. Likewise, I am sure there are some misogynistic dipshit inadequates who relish the power they have as an Elder, but know that is what they relish. That's evil.

    Now, rather obviously, not all misogynists are fat smelly old men. Not all paedophiles have squints and hunchbacks. Life would be easier that way. But life isn't simple, and I think the assumption that it should be, whilst understandable, is just something that ain't gonna happen.

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Evil is attractive, no doubt about it. Whether from a secular or religious point of view if we found evil repulsive, it'd be easy to conquer or avoid. We sin not so much because we WANT TO DO EVIL but because the evil is something we desire. Sex, money, power, all attractive, and deadly for the secular and religious alike. Satan doesn't tempt with things that horrify us, but rather, that attract us.

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