@Simon: so true. If anyone admits reading the daily mail, it's usually with a guilty smile and a wink.
Headline: "Islamic Invasion: Europe now scrambles for guns." How true is this?
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Simon
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Vidiot
"It doesn't mean everything it reports is automatically wrong... but you need to be aware that they're assholes."
Fixed that for you. :wink:
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tragical
I just wanted to interject these tidbits of information for some clarification on this subject.
Want to know what it is like inside a refugee camp in Germany? Take notice how many men there are compared to women and children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poh3Rke_NkM
Want to know how similar Islam is to western secularism? Saudi Grand Mufti Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah has issued a new fatwa saying men in Saudi Arabia "can eat their wives if they are suffering severe hunger." This is the country that now leads the Human Right Board of the United Nations. No, you can't make that shit up.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/top-saudi-sheikh-issues-bizarre-5491142
Since the topic of Sweden came up, this week another 3 year old girl raped by a Somalian immigrant but the immigration board attempted to cover it up and not report it.
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/smaland/man-misstanks-ha-valdtagit-ett-barn
In case you were wondering how good Islam is at keeping rape and female genital mutilation at bay, in Egypt, 91.1 percent of women ages 15 to 49 had been subjected to genital mutilation, 93% have been raped.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/21/opinion/mona-eltahawy-egypts-sexual-violence.html?_r=0
So in light of that, let's open the door wide open to mass uncontrolled immigration from Islamic and third world countries. They will only enrich us with their cultures.
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Simon
Take notice how many men there are compared to women and children.
I don't think snippets of video are a good measure. Who would take women and children to the front of a barricade of security guards? Of course there will be more women and children where those things are happening (which are also more likely to be the pieces filmed).
So in light of that, let's open the door wide open to mass uncontrolled immigration from Islamic and third world countries. They will only enrich us with their cultures.
I think you are conflating two things and end up mistakenly labeling all refugees as violent terrorists that must be feared.
I agree there should not be uncontrolled immigration. We should make sure people are vetted as thoroughly as possible and there should be rules - anyone starts trying to promote Sharia law or bring their religious issues to our shores should be dropped back in the middle of where they came from.
But the vast majority of people are innocent civilians who just want to live. They need help and helping them is the right and proper thing to do - otherwise what society exactly do we think we're defending?
And there are criminals in any population - immigrants equally need protecting from existing citizens ... or don't we care about those killers?
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tragical
Everyday in Europe headlines like this: "14 year old Norwegian girl brutally gang raped by 3 Africans."
Everyday in Europe you see demonstrations like this supporting Sharia law and ISIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJyKRwQHHM
And here is the next generation, until they form their own political party and force whole neighborhoods under Sharia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9x-RN5it4Q
Meanwhile Simon picks out an article of one lone sick bastard taking a refugee child from a camp and says the refugees need protection from existing citizens! HA! Man, you are really sick in the head. You can't even compare that one instance to what is already taking place across Europe everyday.
Ever wonder why Sweden has the highest number of rapes per captia in the Western world and second highest amount of rapes in the entire world right after South Africa and Lesotho? Think it has anything to do with immigration from third world countries? Na, that can't be. Must be the fault of the native citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape
No, there's absolutely NO correlation to the rampant increase in rapes and increase in immigration from third worlders.
“Forty years after the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country, violent crime has increased by 300 percent and rapes by 1,472 percent."
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Viviane
Ever wonder why Sweden has the highest number of rapes per captia in the Western world and second highest amount of rapes in the entire world right after South Africa and Lesotho? Think it has anything to do with immigration from third world countries? Na, that can't be. Must be the fault of the native citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statisticsWell, let's look at your own source and see what it has to say....
In 2012, Sweden had 66 cases of reported rapes per 100,000 population, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå).[234] This was unequivocally the biggest number reported to the UNODC in 2012.[235] However, widely differing legal systems, offence definitions, terminological variations, recording practices and statistical conventions makes any cross-national comparison on rape statistics difficult,[236][237][238][239] which is why the UNODC itself caution against using their figures.[235] It should also be noted that many countries do not report any rape statistics at all to the UNODC,[240] and some report very low numbers, despite studies that indicate otherwise.[241][242]
The Swedish police record each instance of sexual violence in every case separately, leading to an inflated number of cases compared to other countries.[236][239][243] Sweden also has a comparatively wide definition of rape.[236][237][238] This means that more sexual crimes are registered as rape than in most other countries.[237] For example, in 2005 Sweden reformed its sex crime legislation and made the legal definition of rape much wider,[236][244][245][246] which led to a marked increase in reports.[247][248] Additionally, the Swedish police have improved the handling of rape cases, in an effort to decrease the number of unreported cases.[236][248][249][250] For this reason, large-scale victimisation surveys have been presented by criminologists as a more reliable indicator of rape prevalence.[236][237][238] An EU-wide survey on sexual violence against women, published theEuropean Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA) in 2014, showed Sweden was only third highest, below Denmark and Finland[251] and a previous assessment by Brå have placed Sweden at an average level among European nations.[237]
In other words.... did you even read the thing you posted to understand it? Seriously, this is like, the 5th time in two days I've seen someone use documentation to "support" their position that completely undermines it. It's you aren't trying to understand the situation, but desperately looking for anything to support your position.
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tragical
Seriously, this is like, the 5th time in two days I've seen someone use documentation to "support" their position that completely undermines it. It's you aren't trying to understand the situation, but desperately looking for anything to support your position.
Well I hope you are referring to someone else because I back up everything with verifiable facts. I even debunked that factcheck website using the UN's own website but that is now besides the point. The point I am making is that there is a direct correlation to the rampant increases in crime, rapes and anti-Semitism across Europe and immigration from third world nations.
I read that whole wikiarticle and found that everything after the verified rape stats was conjecture, obviously written by apologists for rapists. Nice people, I'm sure. No seriously, I find it absolutely repulsive that you are trying to discredit rape statistics. Disgusting. You'd make a great lawyer for a child rapist and sleep soundly at night.
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OrphanCrow
tragical: The point I am making is that there is a direct correlation ...
Correlation does not prove causation.
Using correlated results to make conclusive statements is a dangerous practice that misuses the purposes of statistical study.
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bohm
OrphanCrow: It is true correlation does not imply causation but it's usually indicative of it. One could for instance compare Sweeden with Norway (roughly similar but with far less immigrants) and that might allow stronger conclusions to be drawn.