I am still not able to solve this God's name paradox...

by psyco 24 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • waton

    In his most desperate, last breath moments The "son of god" after supposedly > billions of years of co existence with the father of all, cied out:

    " ELI, ELI, why----? " or so the story goes. so much for the name or the magic power that JWs attribute to it.

  • johnamos
    God left us His name in the form of יהוה which is unpronounceable.
    So, we need to add some vowels יְהֹוָה to pronounce it “Jehovah” in English
    The question is: what vowels are they and who added them?
    The answer is: they are the vowels of the Hebrew word “Adonai”

    First off, you need to get the, 'the vowels came from 'adonai' out of your head. As can be seen that there is the vowel E in Jehovah and there is no E in 'adonai'.

    You rightful note that God left us his name in the form יהוה

    Here are 4 more names that are consonants only and need vowels added to pronounce:

    יוסף יהודה ישעיה יהושע

    Those names are:

    YeHOshua, YshaYaH, YeHUdaH, YOsef

    Notice that the vowels E, O, A, can be found in them. Keep in mind that these names never stopped being written or pronounced. These names have in them the same consonants as the name God left us in regards to his name. The consonants are Y H V. יהו

    When you look at the names written in Hebrew you can see these consonants. (YHV) When you look at the names written in English you see the YH but no V. That is because the V is a holding marker for the vowels U and O.

    In 3 of the names above the V is in them but 2 are replaced using the O and 1 is replaced using the U. So based on those names you have the vowels E and A and the vowels U and O because of the V.

    So here are the vowels we are dealing with to insert in the consonants of God's name: E, O/U, A

    Keep in mind that it will be either a O or U, not both. And the O or U replaces the V, they are not added in addition too.


    It is YeHOshua, not YeHOVshua

    It is YeHUdaH, not YeHUVdah

    Likewise, in using those vowels with the consonants of God's name it would be:

    YeHOaH, not YeHOVaH

    Or in today's English because we use the J instead of the Y it would be:

    JeHOaH, not JeHOVaH

    The main take away is that putting aside the mistake of keeping the V in, the appropriate vowels to use for God's name are E, O, A. This is based on the comparison of other Hebrew names (that never stopped being spoken or written) that contain the prefix and suffix of God's name.

    Such as:

    JeHOshaphat – JeremiaH

    JeHOiakim – IsaiaH

    JeHOram – NehemiaH

    JeHOiachin – ZechariaH

    יהו (YeHO) + ה (aH) = YeHOaH/JeHOaH

    BTW, the names above YeHOshua, YshaYaH, YeHUdaH, YOsef

    Are known today has: JOshua, IsaiaH, JUdaH, JOseph

  • WokenfromJWcult

    Don’t you just cringe when you hear a Pharisee pretending to pray and using Joe Hoover 69 times in a 200 word chant.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    I would just go with "Yoddy Wahee," but we haven't spoken since I discovered he was just a sock puppet that Fred Franz kept in his desk drawers at Bethel in Fred's "Sanctum Sanctorum,"

    Fred only brought Yoddy out when he felt "Moved by the Spirit" (horny).

    The Bethel Barber was called to Fred's room weekly to keep Fred's hand's properly groomed.

  • Phizzy

    It really doesn't matter how YHWH was and should be pronounced. The thing to recognise is that the God bearing that name came from Pagandom ! he came from South of where the Hebrews/Israelites lived in the wild hills of Canaan, he came probably via the Midianites, and maybe originated in Egypt (Big ?).

    Certainly he was a minor god as far as the Canaanites were concerned, but eventually Israel adopted him as THEIR god, and at a very late date decided he was god Almighty, above other gods, later still they decided other gods were not real.

    But to worship a Deity with that doubtful provenance today, is rather silly and pathetic.

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