Jehovah’s Witnesses threaten Irish blogger with damages (avoidjw.org)

by Not_Culty 31 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Not_Culty
    Not_Culty

    Jason Wynne: threatened with legal action by the Jehovah’s Witnesses

    Sect claims publication of its secret policy documents is a copyright violation; Website contents also include documents concerning child sex abuse allegations

    https://www.businesspost.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-granted-subpoena-irish-blogger-412638

  • AverageJoe1
    AverageJoe1

    Craziness. The WT are shooting themselves in the foot with these tactics.

  • scratchme1010
    scratchme1010

    If he's violating copyright law, the guy deserves to get sued, regardless of how good or bad of strategy that is for the WT. Neither the WT nor the guy are above the law.

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister

    He's the hero who is behind Avoidjw.org

    How are we gonna help him? We need to contribute to a website that's hosted in countries who don't care. Like they do with their off shore accounts.

    Sorry, ( not sorry) when it comes to Watchtower and their secret manuals the gloves are off.

  • Not_Culty
  • Saename
    Saename

    scratchme1010, I think you're going too far when you say that Jason deserves to be sued if he violated the copyright law. Let's say that there's a PIMO elder in one congregation, and while he was looking through the congregation files, he found secret documents recording a case of child sex abuse that was covered up. In some regions, it would be illegal for him to bring it to the police. But this is what he decides to do, and the Watchtower sues him for it. Did the elder deserve to be sued?

    Here's what I'm trying to point out. If you break the law, yes, you can be punished or sued for it. But that's separate from whether you actually deserve it. Jason possibly broke the law, and if he did, the Watchtower has the full right to seek legal consequences. But that's separate from saying that Jason deserves any of it. His website helped thousands of people worldwide over the years, and there's no denying that. Is he legally responsible for his actions if he broke the law? Yes. Does he deserve any legal consequences? Hell no.

  • Simon
    Simon

    "deserves" if you are going by the strictest letter of the law, but when people are exposing wrong-doing and blowing the whistle on things then that should act as a protection against such claims.

    However, such things can be done by the courts - if legal action was taken then discovery should uncover such documents and if they didn't hand them over that is the perfect time to produce them to the court to make them the criminals.

    If you also include their regular publications though you are painting a target on your back and handing them a gun because they then have you over pretty clear-cut copyright violation and it's hard to argue much in the way of it being legitimate.

  • Sliced
    Sliced

    I often wonder about Scratchme1010 and the comments made... hmmm.

    Has anyone ever given much thought to how many times the Watchtower has broken copy-write laws themselves??? Or is misquoting and in some cases outright plagiarism not considered a violation?

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow

    It is a misuse of copyright law if it is used to suppress and censor information

    *there is 'stuff' going on in Europe right now concerning how copyright can be used...I haven't dug deep enough to comment on what exactly is happening but the timing of the WTS/org is fortuitous, isn't it?

    ** and then there is this:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/copyright-first-wave-internet-censorship

  • neat blue dog
    neat blue dog

    As revealed in the Disney vs Netflix case, misuse of copyright law by the holder can even result on them losing their copyright if taken too far.

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