by refiners fire 14 Replies latest watchtower bible
Thus it is interesting with 10 jubilees per 490 years
After 490 years, you would have only celebrated 9 Jubilees, because the Jubilee Year was the 50th year, hence, at the end of the 50 years. So 10 Jubilees would only have been celebrated after 500 years, yes?
BTW, can someone tell me what happened in 455BCE?
Prisker. 455BC. The commencement of the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem. (unless memory fails me) Our friend is thinking Jubilee CYCLES. 50 x 50 cycles of 2500 years were used by Russell, and 50 x 70 cycles of 3500 years were postulated in Rutherford times, but our friend here is calculating 49 x 49 cycles. Hes just dropping 50 years cause he WANTS the cycle to end in 1948 with the reestablishment of Israel in Palestine.
Some comments about the Watchtower quotation.
W 8/15/25 p. 246
"It has been suggested by some that the article on the twelfth chapter of Revelation in March first Watch Tower is of private interpretation. But it is not of private interpretation;
WRONG! It is indeed of private interpretation!
"...it is merely applying to the Scriptures long ago written in prophetic phrase the facts as we know them now to exist."
Ok...who is doing this Applying? Who is interpreting the "prophetic phrase" and who is interpreting the meaning of the "facts as we know them now to exist"? There might not be a common understanding of what these "facts" mean.
There are at least two interpretations, of the meaning of the "prophetic phrase", and of what the "facts as we know them"...and even a third interpretation...the relating of the two to each other! This seems like a lot of interpretation going on, and since there obviously was not common agreement by all as to it, it must be considered a private interpretation by some.
"The time has come for this scripture to be understood
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Why? Who says so?
" and the Lord promised his people, the church, to convey an understanding of it, and those who appreciate it rejoice."
And because you have come up with this wonderful interpretation, you attribute to the Lord that it is time for an understanding? Do you consider yourself having a special standing to provide this "understanding" to others? And we are all suppose to appreciate it?
"There are some who have no understanding, as the Psalmist shows, and these the Lord must treat like the horse or the mule. They must be guided by the bridle or held by the bit, since they do not recognize that the Lord is instructing his people and guiding them with his wisdom
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This is just being presumptuous on your part! You have not proved that your "interpretation" is indeed from the Lord. You really must stop speaking for the Lord and equating your "private interpretations" with the wisdom from the Lord.
"Not being anxious to walk with the company of the Lord’s little ones, such accept what doctrines they may choose to accept and walk according to their own individual wisdom…[Psalm 32:9, 10]
So, everyone that accepts your "private interpretation" is walking in the company of the Lord's little ones? And why should we accept and walk according to a doctrine that YOUR "individual wisdom" came up with? Is your wisdom better, more refined, than ours?
"…This seems to apply to those who have held high places amongst the brethren, who have been privileged to have the truth, but have misused it."
Or, those who require truth to be more than whatever you decide it to be!
Who is (or was) the idiot that wrote this article?
--VM44
Thing about prophecies is that you can make them and leave the time frame open! It works well! 'The end of the world is nigh' is a typical example. It will come true eventually when the sun blows up etc! In the mean time you can control people. If you set dates etc. you need to prepared to be a bit more elastic, which is no problem to the WTS!
ISP
VM That was a very entertaining analysis of the passage from the article. many thanks.
WT 15 May 1995:
…”All of this led to a much clearer understanding of Revelation that came with the publication of Light, in two volumes, in 1930. Still more refinements appeared in “Babylon the Great Has Fallen!” God’s Kingdom Rules! (1963) and “Then Is Finished the Mystery of God” (1969). Yet, there was still more to learn about the prophetic book of Revelation. Yes, brighter light shone on it in 1988, with the publication of Revelation—Its Grand Climax At Hand!”….
Why brothers, does this mean that there are differences between the interpretations in those books? But surely, if this be the case then “Revelation- Its Grand Climax” is not the end all either. It too will be, later, subject to alteration. Light that is considered ultimately focused and glaring in 1963 is realized to be a mere muddy and dim view 70 years later. It never ends.
