First, Metatron, I am not seeking to detract from your post ... but the poster named "Hamas" has gone a little far, and I want to isolate his/her comments under the "truth" detector.
REF. See post "Islam's Hour of Judgment" at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/52260/1.ashx
The poster named "Hamas" made the quoted comments ... and the comments in between reflect my concerns and questions:
Correct. The Islamic world has every reason to feel hard done to as they have felt the bite of history the most, out of all national groups.
FALSE: Islam is NOT a national group, as though we could compare them to French, British, Chinese or German. Rather, Islam is a religion that is followed by over 1.2 billion people located in nearly every nation on earth, including the United States.
Palestine: Britain, with the help of America, gave Palestine to the Jews who have occupied it for more than 50 years, years full of oppression, crime, destruction and killing. America supports these outrages.
FALSE: Working with Palestinians for many years, including those who have little love for Jews, they have been very clear that the Palestinians welcomed Jewish migration from prior to WWII, during and following WWII. Palestine was not a separate state, but was under Jordanian control until Jordan abandoned the land and the Palestinians. As Jews increased in population they took control and created the State of Israel with the blessing of the UN. A separate state was promised to the Palestinians, but never delivered. Also, many Jewish settlements uprooted native Palestinians and property was wrongfully taken from them. Israel must address this and other wrongs to make peace with the Palestinians. REF. The Pro-Palestinian book, “The Diaspora” – an account of the plight of the Palestinians.
Somalia:
Nothing is stated here to address. So the poster named “Hamas” needs to be a little more specific.
Chechnya: America supported Russian attrocities
FALSE: Please provide some reasonable level of evidence for this claim. To my knowledge, the USA does not nor has it supported any Russian or Soviet atrocities. The USA acted as a buffer against Soviet expansionism for over 40 years post WWII. The USA did not go to war with the Soviet Union precisely because the Soviets equaled our military strength and nuclear power ... so they were contained under the “MAD” policy (Mutually Assured Destruction) ... and after the Soviet Union dissolved, the country experienced much civil unrest ... some regions were able to break free of Russia, and some were not ... the USA continued its policy of staying out of Russian affairs ... so, given we are damned if we get involved and damned if we do not ... we are call invaders when we do something pro-active, and we are called supporters of atrocities when we do nothing.
Kashmir: America supports Indian oppression against Islam
FALSE: Similar response as above, except that the USA has stayed out of Indian affairs. Kashmir has long been disputed before the USA became the only super-power.
Lebanon
Nothing is stated here to address. So the poster named “Hamas” needs to be a little more specific.
The theft of oil due to military threats from America
What is this about? Who was threatened, and what oil was involved. Please provide more specifics.
American invasion and corruption of Arab lands
FALSE: The USA stepped in to repel Saddam Hussein from Kuwait and a couple of cities inside the Saudi border near Kuwait. Iraq had designs to invade Saudi Arabia. The USA is now planning to leave. The so-called “Corruption” you speak of is the blatant racial and religious discrimination practiced by radical Islamists who consider all non-Islamic people to be heathen unclean infidels. These extremists are no better than the radical Bible-thumping Jehovah’s Witnesses who think they are the only clean people on earth.
Prior to the second Gulf war, American sanctions were the cause of 1.5 million men women and children being starved to death.
FALSE: The USA did not set up the sanction, but they were part of the UN resolutions. Today, the USA is trying to get the sanctions removed ... but France and Russia are want their continued imposition.
Iraq : The unjust killing of civilians in order to destroy 'weapons of mass destruction', weapons that have never been found. The main reason America attacked Iraq was to prevent Saddam Hussain's continued support of Palestinian freedom in Israel by means of sales from oil.
FALSE: prior to any such military police action against Iraq, the USA under the policies of President Bush has formally supported an independent Palestinian State. American support is via a peaceful evolution, and not through the suicide-homicide bomber method – which only serves to harden and polarize people.
As for WMDs ... it is reasonable to conclude two things: First, it makes sense that Saddam Hussein would have his people continuously move such weapons and any material capability. The UN resolutions were not just after loaded and ready to use weapons ... but were after the basic capabilities, including facilities and materials. To date, the USA and UK and Iraqis themselves have found serrin gas, mobile chemical and biological laboratories as well as radioactive sites where raw plutonium was stored. They found banned long range missiles and long range drones. Also found is well documented connection to Al-Qaeda, terrorists training camps and manuals, and last but not least the French connection showing them aiding and abetting Hussein in hiding WMDs from UN inspectors ... it will not surprise me when such WMDs are found ... but if they are not, enough was found along with freedom for Iraqi people that the war is already a well justified action.
Afghanistan : The criminal killings of innocent civilians, under the scapegoat of 9/11.
FALSE: Afghanistan harbored Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda militants who claimed responsibility for 9/11. The USA gave the Taliban ample time to turn these criminals over to American authority ... they chose unwisely ... they suffered the consequences. Yes, some civilians were accidentally killed ... this is a bad feature of any military action ... but no nation on earth save the UK and a few others would ever consider trying to be so surgically careful. Try checking the recent Philippine bombing of terrorists camps in that country ... compare their style to that of the USA. No one wants innocent civilians killed ... yet, sometimes it happens.
White house guru's may want to irradiate Islam, we are in for a long war. America and Israel have attacked Arabs and supported the attacks for almost half a century, killing millions.
FALSE: There is no one trying to eradicate Islam. The USA, UK and many other nations are defending their right to have a peaceful existence. Remember, it was radical Islam that first used military expansionism to spread Islam, starting with the seizure of the Jewish and Christian Holy land and then moving into Europe, when the Christians finally were forced to repel the Islamic invaders during the Crusades. Islam lost and they never got over it.
Finally, the USA and Israel have not killed “millions” of Islamic people. You have not provided a single shred of evidence, and you cannot because none exist ... because it never happened.
ISLAM and Palestinians have a case for sure. Certainly, Israel has not always been innocent. Like many Americans, I support an independent Palestinian State, as I support a separate Kurdish State. Our President supports a Palestinian State. It will happen. ... but in the interim, you would be far better served using facts, and discontinuing wild false allegations. Such statements discredit an otherwise good cause. Fundamental fairness and adherence to intellectual honesty demand that reasonable people deal with difficult challenges in reasonable ways.