Could end of November be special?

by Kosonen 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • btlc

    For those who usually skipped history lessons, an important news - nothing new!

  • fastJehu


    Should we go south or north?

    (Ecclesiastes 11:3) 3 If the clouds are filled with water, they will pour down rain on the earth; and if a tree falls to the south or to the north, the place where the tree falls is where it will lie.

  • Kosonen


    The place of refuge should fit the description in Ezekiel 38 and Revelation 12.

  • Kosonen


    Interestingly in Australia there is a political party leader Riccardo Bosi for the AustraliaOne party that is planning to do a similar job as did Jehu in Israel. And free Australia from Covid restrictions and mandates and from foreign interference.

  • Justaguy

    The witnesses have long taught that those events happened in October, dumbass. If your going to be an organization shill at least be factually accurate.

  • Terry
    • Imagine you just paid your rent.

      You have a whole month until you have to pay again. You go to bed secure in that knowledge.

      When you wake up the next morning you discover 11 days have been removed from the calendar and your rent will be due again only 20 days!

      This is exactly what happened when the Julian Calendar was revised to the Gregorian calendar.

      And why was it revised? So EASTER could be celebrated "correctly."

      The last day of the Julian calendar was Thursday, 4 October 1582 and this was followed by the first day of the Gregorian calendar, Friday, 15 October 1582 (the cycle of weekdays was not affected).

      So, that was that, eh? All settled? No way!

      Each country (Protestant or Catholic) either complied or ignored Pope Gregory's revision.

      This led to a wild discrepency between borders!

      One family on the East side of a border could living a different day and month from a family living just on the West side!!

      Depending on where you lived, a letter mailed which ordinarily took a week and a half to reach its destination might suddenly arrive the same day it was sent!

      Let us ask ourselves a question: WHY would Protestants pay any attention to a Catholic Pope in the first place?

      Catholics revised to the Gregorian calendar while many Protestants remained with the Julian Calendar!

      Great Britain and the colonies in America did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752!

      Wednesday, 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday, 14 September 1752.

      What if you were living in Alaska?

      In Alaska the change took place when Friday, 6 October 1867 was followed again by Friday, 18 October. This was after the US purchase of Alaska from Russia, which was still on the Julian calendar. Instead of 12 days, only 11 were skipped, and the day of the week was repeated on successive days!

      Crazy, wacky, kooky--but . . .

      So What?

      Think about this.

      When Jehovah's Witnesses start computing the "correct" day to observe this and that, they do so at the command of a CATHOLIC POPE!

      As much as individual nations, tribes and religions have arbitrarily adopted (or not) completely arbitrary means of computing time, days, months and years---How could any reasonable person think it is even possible to know how many years have passed from event to another event?

      Keep that upper most in your mind the next time the Watchtower starts mouthing off about dates and times in their cartoon chronology!

      It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582
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  • Kosonen


    Well the organization have spoken a lot about the beginning of October. As a likely time of Jesus' birth and Adam's creation time and the fall of Babylon.

    But the organization has also dealt with the timing of the flood. As the Bible says Genesis 7:11 "In the 600th year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the 17th day of the month, on that day all the springs of the vast watery deep burst open and the floodgates of the heavens were opened."

    The second month is November, because the first month by then was October. So the the flood begun the 17th of November. Give or take a few days because we don't know how exactly days in the ancient calendar corresponds with today's.

    And here is a source giving the timeline of the events in Jerusalem and the Romans attack on the city in 66CE.

    November 17: Cestius advances on Jerusalem. He sets fire to to suburban districts, then moves to the wall of the upper city and pitches camp in the vicinity of the royal palace"

    November 22: Cestius suddenly gives up and retreats from the city "without any reason in the world." [2.19.7 540]

    Josephus: "It was, I suppose, owing to the aversion God had already toward the city and the sanctuary that He delayed from putting an end to the war that very day." [2.19.6 539]

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut
    I would like to flee away from this system with Covid related requirements.

    Not counting old age and other sicknesses 20+ thousand JW's have died of Covid in this past year and a half. Since they believe it will take 1000 years to grow to perfection, hopefully the ones "fleeing from this system of things" aren't carrying covid or suffering from any number of ailments that require a handful of medications to stay alive. I imagine that if and when "armageddon" is over, there will be JW's who are in their high 80's or 90's or JW's who were diagnosed with untreatable stage 4 cancer the week before armageddon arrived and even with the best of medical attention, only have so many more months to live and will already be at deaths door. There may be JW's who were laying on an operating table having heart surgery when Armageddon hits or will have just given birth to a premature or sick baby. Since it will be 1000 years before they are finally perfect, will the still imperfect sick or elderly people who survived armageddon, suffer and die in the new System from the myriad of illnesses they carry or die of old age before perfection is reached . If so will they be resurrected later or immediately?

    It used to be fun to think about paradise and living forever, petting lions and living "happily ever after" but as an adult, when you look at it literally and focus on the details, you realized how far fetched the whole concept is. It worked for us because most JW's only have a idealized vague notion about what after armageddon will look like and what it would take to health wise to get everyone past the thousand years and what being happy living for all eternity would take, mentally. They mock "worldly" people for believing they're going to heaven to be with Jesus yet at the same time their hope is just as much of a fairy tale.

    Maybe living in a country with "Covid requirements" might not be such a bad thing to you after all ? Hopefully we all have many happy Novembers to look forward to and won't spend them speculating on nonsense and wishing for better time that will never arrive.

  • FedUpJW

    Could the end of November be special? YES. If I am alive it will be special because it means the first of December is just around the corner and we are one more month closer to spring.

  • Kosonen

    Its coming Revelation 13.

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