How many Ends are there?

blondie

When will the current preaching work end? (remember, I am reporting not supporting WTS teaching)

Questions from Readers August 2025 p. 31 (How many WTS teaching have been clarified? The WTS lists them on the Watchtower Online Library under “Clarifications.”

There is “end” and then there is “end”

Matthew 24:14 “The Greek word translated “end” in this verse, as well as in verses 6 and 13, is teʹlos. It refers to the final end of Satan’s world at Armageddon. Rev: 16:14,16) Thus, we will continue to preach the good news until just before that final end. This adjusts our earlier understanding…Previously, we understood that we would stop preaching the good news when the great tribulation began with the destruction of Babylon the Great…We compared them to the Jews who survived the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 B.C.E. These individuals had been marked for survival earlier because they worshipped Jehovah and hated wickedness…That comparison, however, does not harmonize with Jesus’ words found at Matthew 24:14, which indicate that people may have the opportunity to respond to the good news until just before the final end at Armageddon…At that late point in time, after the destruction of Babylon the Great, will some be drawn to the message as to a sweet fragrance? This is quite possible. Perhaps they may recall or learn that for many years Jehovah’s Witnesses had announced the end of false religion…By way of comparison, consider what happened in ancient Egypt following the Ten Plagues. After Jehovah “[executed] judgment on all the gods of Egypt,” his people were joined by “a vast mixed company” of non-Israelites. These foreigners may have turned to Jehovah when they saw Moses’ warnings about the Ten Plagues come true…Any who turn to Jehovah after the destruction of Babylon the Great will have the privilege of doing good to Christ’s brothers who will still be on earth… Of course, that opportunity to be judged as sheep will end shortly before Armageddon when the remaining anointed ones receive their heavenly reward…This clarified understanding powerfully illustrates Jehovah’s great love and mercy. Yes, he “does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance.” (The above is saying that the WTS/GB did not agree with what Jesus said and this scripture. So that means they desired those people to be destroyed not their god.)

WingCommander

www.jwfacts.com has the entire list of dates of "The End."

One things for sure: The End of Governing Body 2.0 is at hand! A lot of these holier-than-thou dinosaurs already have 1 foot on the "Launch Pad." Losch is losing his mind and not able to be understood, and Herd is a grumpy old man who can only read the "New Light" from a piece of paper. Lett still clowning around by shear willpower and money. Anthony Morris da Turd is living the good life sitting around on his Lay-Z-Boy recliner in his underwear with a glass of McCallen's in one hand, and a fistfull of dollars wrapped in a non-disclosure agreement in the other.

"Susan, freshen up my ice cubes, chop-chop! Fetch yourself a Jamison's if you like. Your King has spoken."

DesirousOfChange

How many "Ends" are there?

Just one . . . . . for each of us.

Halcon

After Jehovah “[executed] judgment on all the gods of Egypt,” his people were joined by “a vast mixed company” of non-Israelites. These foreigners may have turned to Jehovah when they saw Moses’ warnings about the Ten Plagues come true…

This is a very significant thing JW is stating. First, it relieves them from having to keep looking out for the start of the 'great tribulation'.

Second, it does away with the hard-line claim that you must be JW to be saved. In essence they've taken the same position as all other Christian religions.

blondie

I went back and looked where the WTS had made statements about the hailstones: Revelation 16:21

W 7/15/2015 p.16 As the end of this world nears, the proclamation of Jehovah’s judgments against Satan’s wicked system may involve unusually heavy verbal expressions of God’s judgments, likely pictured by congealed water. Still, most of mankind will continue to blaspheme God.

W 2/15/2009 p. 4 “As the end of this world nears, the proclamation of Jehovah’s judgments against Satan’s wicked system may involve unusually heavy verbal expressions of God’s judgments, likely pictured by congealed water. Still, most of mankind will continue to blaspheme God.”

W 7/15/2008 p. 7 And Revelation 16:21: “The plague of it was unusually great.” Just what role the house-to-house ministry will play in the proclaiming of those climactic judgment messages remains to be seen. But we can be sure that before “the great tribulation” is finished, Jehovah’s name will have been made known as never before in human history.

Revelation Climax Book p. 234 “This punishing downpour of congealed waters likely pictures unusually heavy verbal expressions of Jehovah’s judgments, signaling that the end of this system of things has arrived at last! Jehovah could well use literal hail too in his destructive work.”

W 3/15/84 p. 19 “Today the “soft” waters of truth are being taken to the people to encourage them to turn to Jehovah. But the day soon will come when the message will turn “hard.” It will announce the imminent end of this entire satanic system. The soft waters of truth will congeal to become the hard hailstones of truth. So powerful will these final judgment messages be that they are likened to “a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent,” that is, of gigantic size.”

August 2025 Questions from Readers p.31: Note, too, that the symbolic hailstorm will be “unusually great.” This suggests that during the great tribulation, the preaching work may become more hard-hitting, that is, Jehovah’s name will be made known as never before. (Ezek. 39:7) At that late point in time, after the destruction of Babylon the Great, will some be drawn to the message as to a sweet fragrance? This is quite possible. Perhaps they may recall or learn that for many years Jehovah’s Witnesses had announced the end of false religion.

Prior to August 2025…May 2024 What We Know p.11-12“12 Even after the great tribulation starts, it is possible that some who see the destruction of “Babylon the Great” will recall that Jehovah’s Witnesses had long spoken of this event. Might some who see these events have a change of heart?—

13 Such an outcome would be similar to what occurred in Egypt in Moses’ day. Recall that “a vast mixed company” joined Israel in the Exodus. Some of these individuals may have started to develop faith when they saw that Moses’ warnings about the Ten Plagues came true. (Ex. 12:38) If a similar development should occur following the destruction of Babylon the Great, would we be disappointed that people were able to join us shortly before the end comes? Of course not! We want to reflect the personality of our heavenly Father, “a God merciful and compassionate, slow to anger and abundant in loyal love and truth.”

Beth Sarim

"We never said the 'end' was coming then . . " .. 😒

FedUpJW

Second, it does away with the hard-line claim that you must be JW to be saved.

Perhaps in words for public consumption, but from what I have been told it is even more black and white that if one is not baptized as a JW, and then for all intents and purposes worships the governing body as if they were collectively god himself you are bound to be turned into "burnt hotdogs".

joey jojo

The stupid part about the old understanding is the claim that the preaching work will end before the great tribulation starts. Matthew 24 clearly indicates that the preaching work is the the last thing to be accomplished before the end comes.

As far as I know, the GB has always used the term 'the last days', to describe the last hundred years or so, without ever using the term ' the great tribulation'. By their own calculations and description of the world, shouldn't we be living in the great tribulation right now? I mean, everything fits- just like at almost any other time in history.

Halcon

Perhaps in words for public consumption, but from what I have been told it is even more black and white that if one is not baptized as a JW, and then for all intents and purposes worships the governing body as if they were collectively god himself you are bound to be turned into "burnt hotdogs.

This may be stated by JWs that don't truly pay attention to these changes for one reason or another. Or by hard-core JWs that won't accept that it's no longer required to be a JW to be saved.

This religion has a complex task ahead. To change into a mainstream Christian religion from a doomsday end-times one. But they're laying the foundation with every little change made in last couple of years.

HereIam60

Blondie;

Thank you for your research and the cited quotes on the "hailstone" message...Each time seems to overlook that Revelation 16:21 states that the hailstones fall from Heaven, indicating an action on the part of God himself...and that men blasphemed against Him as a result...

Joey Jojo:

A publication used in the late 1950s ' 'From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained' did present the view that the Present Day and Age Was the Great Tribulation, in that Revealation 7:9 says that the "great crowd" standing before the throne "come out" of the great tribulation. Since they were being 'gathered' in the present time through the preaching work..that time period was viewed as being the G.T..

The interperetation must have changed again quite soon, when it was evidently realized that the Great Trib. Jesus spoke of was said to be like nothing that ever happened before, nor would occur again, and no flesh could be saved unless its days were cut short... (Matthew 24:21, 22)

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