Watchtower cashing in on the Hamburg tragedy?

by Listener 9 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Listener

    Thank you very much Atlantis for all your hard work and for emailing a letter written by the Watchtower (coming from the German Branch possibly) to be read out to Congregations by Elders.

    There is so much wrong in this letter. Maybe some of it is due to being lost in translation but since the Watchtower is predominantly english, it doesn't seem likely

    The letter is as follows -

    March 16, 2023
    Re: Update on the Situation in Hamburg
    Dear Brothers:
    The cruel act in Hamburg on March 9, 2023, has severely affected the whole brotherhood. We are all saddened and suffer along with them. (1 Cor. 12:26) It is all the more overwhelming what has and is being accomplished locally to support our dear brothers and sisters, starting with the first hours after the crime and continuing until now.
    Many relief efforts have been coordinated in close communication with World Headquarters to best assist all those who are suffering. Brothers of the Hospital Liaison Committee, circuit overseers, Branch Committee representatives and many others have been working tirelessly last week and this week to assist and to provide comfort or practical help to victims, relatives, and brothers and sisters of the congregation. These efforts demonstrate Jehovah’s compassion. The words of Psalm 34:18 really come true: “Jehovah is close to the broken hearted.”
    We are pleased to inform you that a funeral program is planned, which will certainly provide special comfort to all those affected. A member of the Governing Body, representatives of World Headquarters, and members of the Branch Committee will also be present at this occasion. The program will take place in Hamburg on the last weekend in March 2023.
    Please continue to pray incessantly for the brothers and sisters who went through this traumatic experience (2 Cor. 1:8-11), and for everything that is being done to help them. We are convinced that Jehovah is our secure refuge in times of distress. (Ps. 9:9) Please be assured of our love.
    Your brothers,
    c.: Circuit overseers ZW EIGBÜRO ZENTRALEUROPA
    Re: Update on the Situation in Hamburg AI:SCU March 16, 2023
    Page 2 PS to coordinators of the bodies of elders: Please have this letter read at the next meeting

    I guess it's a very good thing when they claim that the shooting has SEVERLY affected the WHOLE Brotherhood. Hopefully it will have many asking how a JW can become so mentally affected as to cause such an atrocity and what the organization can do to minimize mental damage to individuals rather than inflicting them with cruel and wicked punishments such as shunning.

    Oddly, the JW News on JW Org no longer carries their story announcing the tragedy. It's been removed and there is no mention whatsoever on JW Org.

    They mention overwhelming support for the Bros and Sis's in the hours after but nothing specifically about the immediate response from the police and other non JW support. No mention of the non JW individuals/family members who would have been severely affected by this also. A shooting such as this doesn't affect JWs only and according to Kim (Newly Enlightened) there has been a lot of community support which the JWs are rejecting.

    Many relief efforts have been coordinated in close communication with World Headquarters to best assist all those who are suffering.

    Is this really a time to use common JW phrasing, particularly when it just sounds cultish and impersonal? What are 'relief efforts' in a situation like this? Why would there need to be communication with 'World Headquarters' in order to determine what is the best way to assist those suffering? Surely the local Brothers and Sisters are more than capable of providing support and seeking/accepting professional help as needed.

    It would seem that the Watchtower is more interested in making JWs think that the WH are vital in tragedies like this. But it's interesting to note that the only real support they are giving is communication.

    We are pleased to inform you that a funeral program is planned

    They are please to inform this? It's not a Wedding or a Birthday, it's a funeral. Why would anyone be pleased to tell others that they a planning funeral program. The wording is very poor and indicates that they aren't really interested in sharing in to sorrow of all those personally affected or making this a sombre occasion.

    No, this is quite the opposite to a modest funeral, which is what they have instructed in the past for JW funerals. For this occasion, they are happy to advise that there will be a GB member, WH Bethelites and Branch office members all of which are unlikely to even know these individuals.

    The tragedy occurred on the 9th of March, the 'program' is being held in the last week of March. It's being called a program, not a funeral because undoubtedly, the funerals would have already taken place which as is the tradition in Germany.

    What's the purpose of holding a program? Maybe because there had been plans to hold a public funeral (or one may be already proposed). It's what often happens these days and it's odd to see the Watchtower doing the same.

    The saddened families will have to sit through two services, weeks apart, that's not comforting.

    JWs are asked to 'pray incessantly' for those suffering, whoops, I mean, for the Brothers and Sisters who went through the traumatic experience. Is this bad translation again or do they really mean to pray incessantly. Incessantly meaning to do something "in an unceasing manner : without interruption or relief : continually"

    I wonder if this will be the norm when tragedies strike on a smaller scale for HQ to send GB members and HQ assistants to.

  • BluesBrother

    As far outside the Watchtower as I am, I do not see this as “cashing in” . They are doing what would be expected of a Mother organisation, in caring for survivors and burying the dead.

    They can’t help sounding cliched, it is all they know how to speak .We would criticise if they did nothing.

  • SadElder

    Likely the the next step is to announce that funds can be donated to the World Wide Work. Surely then all can take comfort knowing that the brothers in charge will be prepared to make the best use of donated funds.

  • joe134cd

    I just wouldn’t be surprised if Wt use this as a publicity stunt.

  • Listener

    Blues Brothers - They've been cashing in on JW funerals for a long time. The funeral service is very little about the person and more about the organization. They've softened up in recent years and are allowing a bit more talk on the individual.

    It is thought the reason for this was with the idea that many non JWs may attend the service and it was a good opportunity to preach to them.

  • redvip2000

    It's just too bad that Jellohoba was too busy doing nothing and also couldn't send one of gzillion angels who were also busy doing nothing, and therefore couldn't protect those jdubs.

    The Org never loses regardless of the outcome. If nobody attacks the Jdubs it's because Jellohoba protects them, and if someone attacks them it's because the prophecies are getting fulfilled and end is coming.

  • WTWizard

    And this is another example of why violence does not work to ruin religions. They simply pray to that beady-eyed monster of a god of theirs for strength. And I am sure that abomination harvests the energy, both from the victims and those who pray for them.

    Did this disrupt the religion? No. True, it disrupted a few boasting sessions. But they are simply going to hold them elsewhere, with no loss. This happens every time a "place of worship" is ruined, whether by a shooting, a fire, a natural disaster, or whatever. It simply pulls the congregation together (along with nearby congregations) to rally for those affected, which is the exact opposite of what you want if you are trying to ruin the religion.

    This is no different in the scope of damaging the congregation than an incident I remember as a cat lick. When I was about 8, the church we went to had a major fire. Did that ruin attendance? No. Instead, they simply found an alternate venue to hold that abomination, and donations went up significantly. This is the opposite of what I would have liked, had I wished to ruin the cat lick church. It is no different with synagogues and mosques, or any other church.

    The better approach would have been to expose the fallacies of the religion, or even the whole bible. No one is going to die if everyone realizes that jesus is nothing more than the archetype of the perfect slave. Rather, people would stop attending those boasting sessions (and church in general). In this scenario, donations would stop and people would simply abandon the church. That is how to ruin a church, and there is no risk to innocent lives as with a fire or shooting (nor is there a risk that donations would go up along with prayer, for joke-hova to harvest).

  • FedUpJW

    JW News on JW Org no longer carries their story announcing the tragedy. It's been removed and there is no mention whatsoever on JW Org.

    Because they are preparing pleas for what is stated below.

    Likely the the next step is to announce that funds can be donated to the World Wide Work.

    Remember, WT does nothing out of genuine love for fellow man/woman or without ulterior motives. It's going to be milked for all the $$$$$ they can guilt members into parting with.

  • Diogenesister

    They use that expression "we are pleased to inform you" for nearly everything they "do" - which is nothing - but "announce" that things are going to take place. It is a wholly innapropriate expression to use and nothing to do with translation, since translating is the one thing watchtower does well and you can guarantee this was gone over with a fine tooth comb by the society before release.

    The also dont specify what help is being offered because there isnt any - at least not from watchtower. They might coordinate elders and COs to go visit the famillies of victims. But the only material help will come from the community itself, who will donate money, food and clothing etc. Individual JWs will be a part of that for sure, but watchtower wont give a dime.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    The Borg can't let pandemics, terrorist attacks and tragedies such as these go to waste.

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