What exactly is grieving gods Holy Spirit?

by Chook 20 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Chook

    I had an elder tell me once I was grieving Holy Spirit but I’m not sure how this dickhead knew.

  • HereIgo

    I was always told by ignoring scriptural counsel, then one could potentially fall into a course of "sin", thus "grieving the holy spirit." uggh...WT phrases make me cringe.

  • LongHairGal


    I always wondered what this saying meant. An image comes into my mind of a superior being shaking his head over mankind's stupidity/disobedience or whatever.

    Maybe in your case, the elder was wondering who to blame for the Holy Spirit not blessing the Congregation 🙄.

  • Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho
    Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

    Oh, that's easy. Maybe he went through your trash and found some leftover garlic bread covered in poison. I'd get a restraining order, @Chook.

  • Vanderhoven7

    It means that electricity has very negative emotions about your behavior.

  • Iamallcool

    It is just a fearmongering phrase to scare you!

  • Ding

    If the WT is right and holy spirit is an impersonal force, how could it experience an emotion like grief?

  • steve2

    This Scripture caused so much turmoil and fear within me as an adolescent/young man. I was convinced I had grieved the holy spirit and had committed the unforgivable sin (by dint of my "fleshly" urges - even though I had not acted on them).

    Looking back at the high level of mental anguish, I just wished I had then known even one level-headed adult who could have said, "Ignore these crazy-making verses. You're fine!" Instead, every adult I knew bought into the mindset that attributed all problems to not doing enough to overcome them.

  • punkofnice
    Chook - I’m not sure how this dickhead knew

    Voices in his head.

  • pale.emperor

    I was told in simpler terms its "knowing it's "the truth", but willingly going out of your way to fight against it".

    Interestingly, only the 144,000 actually are sealed with the holy spirit, so us mere earth dwellers cant possibly grieve it in the first place!

    Watchtower May 15th, 2010

    What Paul Meant

    3 First of all, note Paul’s words recorded at Ephesians 4:30. He wrote: “Do not be grieving God’s holy spirit, with which you have been sealed for a day of releasing by ransom.” Paul did not want his beloved fellow believers to endanger their spirituality. It was with Jehovah’s spirit that they had been “sealed for a day of releasing by ransom.” God’s holy spirit was and still is a seal, or an advance “token of what is to come” for anointed integrity keepers. (2 Cor. 1:22) The seal signifies that they are God’s possession and are in line for heavenly life. Those finally sealed number 144,000.—Rev. 7:2-4.

    4 Grieving the spirit can be the first step leading to the total loss of the influence of God’s active force in a Christian’s life. That this is possible is evident from what David said after he had sinned in connection with Bath-sheba. David repentantly begged Jehovah: “Do not throw me away from before your face; and your holy spirit O do not take away from me.” (Ps. 51:11) Only those anointed ones who prove “faithful even to death” will receive the “crown” of immortal life in heaven. (Rev. 2:10; 1 Cor. 15:53) Christians with an earthly hope also need holy spirit if they are to maintain integrity to God and receive his gift of life on the basis of faith in Christ’s ransom sacrifice. (John 3:36; Rom. 5:8; 6:23) Hence, all of us must guard against grieving Jehovah’s holy spirit.

    How Could a Christian Grieve the Spirit?

    5 As dedicated Christians, we can avoid grieving the spirit. This is possible if we ‘keep on walking and living by spirit,’ for then we will not be overcome by wrong fleshly desires and will not manifest ungodly traits. (Gal. 5:16, 25, 26) But that could change. We could grieve God’s spirit to a degree by allowing ourselves to drift slowly, perhaps almost imperceptibly, toward conduct condemned in God’s spirit-inspired Word.

    6 If we continually went contrary to the direction of holy spirit, we would be grieving it and Jehovah, the Source of that spirit. An examination of Ephesians 4:25-32 will show us how we should conduct ourselves, and it can help us to avoid grieving God’s spirit.

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