The End of the Times of the Gentiles and the Restoration of the Kingdom

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  • wantingtruth
    wantingtruth

    EisMe said:

    For those asking, who is the faithful and wise servant?

    .......

    I affirm before you: It is me.”

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    In Rev. 15 we read :

    2 Then I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire. Those who had conquered the beast, its image, and the number of its name were standing on the sea of glass holding God’s harps in their hands.

    3 They sang the song of God’s servant Moses and the song of the lamb: ......

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    It is obvious that the faithful and wise servant must be one of the beast conquerer,

    so the question is:

    What is the Song of Moses, and what is its meaning, and also the song of the Lamb ?

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    EisMe: I realize this, but we are in a different time period.

    Most of the predictions of the past were grounded in the claim that things had gotten so bad that it had to be the time of the end. Crime, disease, famine, weather events, earthquakes, war, unease, a lack of compassion... all of these were used as signs that this time, it was going to happen.

    The thing is, these things are always happening. You may as well claim that the rising and setting of the Sun are a sure sign of the end. In other words: we are not in a different time period, where these things are concerned. We're in the same time period we've always been in.

  • EisMe
    EisMe

    AbaddonProvesIt9 hours ago**
    EisMe,
    . . . once you figure out the gist and true meaning of Genesis 3:15 and Daniel 9:24, 25, and who it truly applies to, then you will come to understand who is going to genuinely appoint the "Faithful & Discreet Slave" of Matthew 24:45-47.
    Think about it.
    Now . . . a few questions are coming shortly from me, about your above review of the article in question.
    Thanks.
    ***

    Ok, I will.

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    • wantingtruth
      wantingtruth5 hours agoEisMe said:
      ”For those asking, who is the faithful and wise servant?
      .......
      I affirm before you: It is me.”
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      In Rev. 15 we read :
      2 Then I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire. Those who had conquered the beast, its image, and the number of its name were standing on the sea of glass holding God’s harps in their hands.
      3 They sang the song of God’s servant Moses and the song of the lamb: ......
      ---------------------------------------------------
      It is obvious that the faithful and wise servant must be one of the beast conquerer,
      so the question is:
      What is the Song of Moses, and what is its meaning, and also the song of the Lamb ?

      The Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb in Revelation 15:3-4 hold deep prophetic significance, connecting Old Testament deliverance with New Testament victory.

      The Song of Moses – Meaning & Significance

      The Song of Moses appears in Exodus 15 and Deuteronomy 32:

      • Exodus 15 – Sung after the Red Sea crossing, celebrating God’s victory over Pharaoh.
      • Deuteronomy 32 – A warning to Israel, reminding them of God’s justice and faithfulness.

      This song represents:

      • Deliverance from oppression – Just as Israel was freed from Egypt, believers are freed from sin and spiritual bondage.
      • God’s justice – It warns against turning away from God, emphasizing His righteousness.
      • Victory over enemies – It foreshadows final triumph over evil, as seen in Revelation 15.

      The Song of the Lamb – Meaning & Significance

      The Song of the Lamb in Revelation 15 is a song of ultimate victory:

      • It celebrates Jesus’ triumph over sin, death, and the beast.
      • It echoes themes of divine justice, holiness, and universal worship.
      • It fulfills the prophetic promise that all nations will worship God.

      Why They Are Sung Together

      • The Song of Moses represents deliverance from earthly oppression.
      • The Song of the Lamb represents eternal victory through Christ.
      • Together, they symbolize the complete fulfillment of God’s plan—from Israel’s redemption to the final defeat of evil.

    As for me conquering the beast, this will not take place until Jesus arrives in The Kingdom. I am at this point in prophecy. I am awaiting transition from battle to victory:

    12“The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

    Estephan


  • EisMe
    EisMe
    AbaddonProvesIt7 hours ago**
    EisMe,
    At Daniel 9:24-25 (ESV) we read:
    The Seventy Weeks
    24 “Seventy weeks[a] are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.[b] 25 Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again[c] with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.
    As "Faithful & Discreet Slave," you stated you believe Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of Daniel 9:24, 25. So, my beginning questions to you would be as follows:
    First off, in discussing the "70 week" prophecy of Daniel 9:24, 25, we must establish a definite beginning of this particular prophetic period of time and a definite end to this important time period.
    1) So my first question to you would be, when do you say this particular prophecy begins and also, when does it end?
    Do you have a specific time-table for this prophecy?
    This took time in order to analyze its meaning. Here is the result:
    AbaddonProvesIt7 hours ago**
    EisMe,
    At Daniel 9:24-25 (ESV) we read:
    The Seventy Weeks
    24 “Seventy weeks[a] are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.[b] 25 Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again[c] with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.
    As "Faithful & Discreet Slave," you stated you believe Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of Daniel 9:24, 25. So, my beginning questions to you would be as follows:
    First off, in discussing the "70 week" prophecy of Daniel 9:24, 25, we must establish a definite beginning of this particular prophetic period of time and a definite end to this important time period.
    1) So my first question to you would be, when do you say this particular prophecy begins and also, when does it end?
    Do you have a specific time-table for this prophecy?

    This took time to analyze and put together a specific time-line. Here is the result:

    The Final Week: A Prophetic Fulfillment in Our Time

    Introduction – How the Final Week Was Fulfilled

    • Biblical prophecy follows the day-year principle, meaning seven days represent seven years.
    • Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy foretells Messiah’s arrival and the end of sacrifices, culminating in Christ’s full reign.
    • The final prophetic week (seven years) has been fulfilled in our time, transitioning from Babylon’s fall to the Kingdom’s establishment.

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy & Babylon’s Fall

    Babylon’s Role in Daniel’s Prophecy

    "Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and your holy city." (Daniel 9:24)

    • Babylon conquered Jerusalem, leading to 70 years of captivity (Jeremiah 25:11).
    • Cyrus the Great later conquered Babylon, fulfilling Isaiah’s prophecy (Isaiah 45:1) and allowing Israel to return.

    The Pattern of Judgment & Restoration

    "To put an end to sin, to atone for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness." (Daniel 9:24)

    • Ancient Babylon’s fall led to Israel’s restoration, just as the modern fall of economic Babylon leads to Christ’s reign.
    • Revelation 18 describes Babylon’s final destruction, mirroring the judgment cycle seen in Daniel’s prophecy.

    September 11, 2001 – The Birth of the Kingdom of God

    "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet." (Revelation 12:1)

    • This marks the beginning of divine authority as Christ’s Kingdom is born.
    • The fall of the Twin Towers symbolizes Babylon’s first judgment, mirroring Revelation 16:21 (hailstones falling).
    • The economic crash initiates the Gentile period, fulfilling prophecy.

    The Gentile Period & The Two Witnesses

    "They will trample on the holy city for 42 months." (Revelation 11:2)

    • The world enters a 3.5-year phase of Gentile rule, leading to the Two Witnesses’ testimony.

    March 11, 2005 – Jesus Comes Into Power & The End of Sacrifices

    "She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter." (Revelation 12:5)

    • After 3.5 years of nourishment, Christ comes into full authority, sitting at the right hand of God.
    • The Two Witnesses complete their testimony, marking the end of sacrifices.

    Jesus’ Nourishment Before Coming Into Full Power

    "The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days." (Revelation 12:6)

    • The 1,260 days of nourishment represent spiritual preparation before Christ’s reign.
    • Jesus being “snatched up” to God’s throne marks the moment of authority being fully received.

    Why Sacrifices End in the Kingdom of God

    "He sat down at the right hand of God… For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified." (Hebrews 10:12-14)

    • No further sacrifices are needed because Christ’s sacrifice is eternal.
    • Sin and death are abolished, fulfilling Revelation 21:4: “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death, mourning, crying, or pain.”

    September 11, 2008 – The Seventh Trumpet & Covenant Affirmation

    "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ." (Revelation 11:15) “Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within His temple was seen the ark of His covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.” (Revelation 11:19)

    • This moment signifies the affirmation of the covenant in heaven, aligning with Daniel’s prophetic week completion.
    • The economic crisis & global instability reflect Babylon’s continued downfall (Revelation 18:17).
    • The Great Sichuan Earthquake (2008) could symbolize the earthquake in Revelation 11:13.

    Babylon’s Systematic Collapse

    "For in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!" (Revelation 18:17)

    • The 2008 financial crisis, trade wars, and digital currency shifts signal the systematic destruction of Babylon.
    • The United States unknowingly fulfills God’s judgment by triggering global economic shifts (Revelation 17:17).

    Final Reflection

    • The 70 weeks prophecy finds fulfillment in our time, transitioning from Babylon’s fall to Christ’s reign.
    • The final prophetic week (seven years) has unfolded, marking the full establishment of the Kingdom.
    • Sacrifices have ended, Babylon continues to collapse, and Christ’s rule will be fully realized.

    Estephan

  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

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    Final Reflection

    • The 70 weeks prophecy finds fulfillment in our time, transitioning from Babylon’s fall to Christ’s reign.
    • The final prophetic week (seven years) has unfolded, marking the full establishment of the Kingdom.
    • Sacrifices have ended, Babylon continues to collapse, and Christ’s rule will be fully realized.

    EisMe,

    In relation to what you wrote above & quoted by me, had you ever considered the distinct "possibility" that Jesus has been enthroned as Jehovah's King, ever since his resurrection to heaven in the first century . . . ever since he was allowed to have the inestimable privilege to sit upon Jehovah's Throne, beside Him, as a "Conqueror"? (See Romans 1:4; 1 Peter 3:22)

    Please see the following article, covering this topic in detail at this link: https://www.yorww.com/reign.html

    Why not carefully read over this article and let me know what you think. [Smile]

    Thanks,

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  • wantingtruth
    wantingtruth

    EisMe said : "The Song of Moses represents deliverance from earthly oppression."

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    The Song of Moses is one important prophecy of YHWH given to Moses

    Deuteronomy 31:

    16 The Lord said to Moses, “You are about to rest with your ancestors, and these people will soon prostitute themselves with the foreign gods of the land they are entering. They will abandon me and break the covenant I have made with them.

    17 My anger will burn against them on that day; I will abandon them and hide my face from them so that they will become easy prey. Many troubles and afflictions will come to them. On that day they will say, ‘Haven’t these troubles come to us because our God is no longer with us?’

    18 I will certainly hide my face on that day because of all the evil they have done by turning to other gods.

    19 Therefore write down this song for yourselves and teach it to the Israelites; have them sing it,

    >>> so that this song may be a witness for me against the Israelites.

    20 When I bring them into the land I swore to give their ancestors, a land flowing with milk and honey, they will eat their fill and prosper.[e] They will turn to other gods and worship them, despising me and breaking my covenant.

    21 And when many troubles and afflictions come to them,

    >>> this song will testify against them, because[f] their descendants will not have forgotten it.

    For I know what they are prone to do,[g] even before I bring them into the land I swore to give them.”

    22 So Moses wrote down this song on that day and taught it to the Israelites.

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    Have you now learned what the Song of Moses is?
    It is Jehovah's testimony/witness against His own people ....

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    To be one of the "faithful and wise servant" group, means also to be part of "priest" group, and this is a "honor" which no one take it on himself ...

    "No one takes this honor on himself; instead, a person is called by God, just as Aaron was."

    Hebrew 5:4
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    Those who claim to be something else than what they are, are named impostors ....

    Revelation 3:9

    "Note this: I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you."

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    EisMe: I realize this, but we are in a different time period.
    Most of the predictions of the past were grounded in the claim that things had gotten so bad that it had to be the time of the end. Crime, disease, famine, weather events, earthquakes, war, unease, a lack of compassion... all of these were used as signs that this time, it was going to happen.
    The thing is, these things are always happening. You may as well claim that the rising and setting of the Sun are a sure sign of the end. In other words: we are not in a different time period, where these things are concerned. We're in the same time period we've always been in.

    TonusOH, you are actually fulfilling prophecy by questioning whether we are in a different time period. The Bible foretold that, in the last days, people would dismiss signs of the end and claim that everything has remained the same throughout history.

    2 Peter 3:3-4 states: "In the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, ‘Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.’"

    This passage directly addresses your viewpoint—that wars, famines, and unrest have always happened, so nothing is different today. However, prophecy doesn’t just point to cycles of human events; it outlines specific signs that distinguish the time of the end from the past:

    • Daniel 12:4: “Many will go to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” (Technology, globalization, and rapid knowledge expansion define our era.)
    • Revelation 18: Babylon’s economic fall (Recent financial crises mirror this prophecy.)
    • Matthew 24:7: Nation will rise against nation, and there will be earthquakes and famines in various places (Events today align with this description.)

    So while wars and disasters have always occurred, the combination of fulfilled prophecy and unprecedented global events signals a distinct shift.

    Do you truly believe nothing has changed? Or is prophecy unfolding in ways you haven’t yet considered?

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    wantingtruth5 hours ago
    EisMe said : "The Song of Moses represents deliverance from earthly oppression."
    =================
    The Song of Moses is one important prophecy of YHWH given to Moses
    Deuteronomy 31:
    To be one of the "faithful and wise servant" group, means also to be part of "priest" group, and this is a "honor" which no one take it on himself ...
    "No one takes this honor on himself; instead, a person is called by God, just as Aaron was."
    Hebrew 5:4
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    Those who claim to be something else than what they are, are named impostors ....
    Revelation 3:9
    "Note this: I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you."

    Wantingtruth, I appreciate the discussion. The faithful and wise servant is appointed when the master arrives, as stated in Matthew 24:45-47. This moment came when the Kingdom was established in the heavens.

    First of all, the slave is only one person, not a group. If you read the scriptures, everything is singular when making reference to the faithful and wise servant. The following is my history:

    Around 2003-2004, during this transition, I was chosen. At that time, I was posting on this forum under the alias Brownboy, actively delivering spiritual food—fulfilling the servant’s duty. This was not a role I appointed myself to, but one revealed through divine confirmation.

    Since then, I have continued revealing the meaning of many prophecies, guiding others as events lead to the final stage before Jesus arrives. If you want insight into past discussions, you can browse my previous posts under Brownboy, but more importantly, I encourage you to engage with the new information, as it connects directly to prophecy’s unfolding fulfillment.

    I have also endured many trials, including imprisonment, and lived through the testing of the wicked slave—spending time with drunkards, mistreating fellow slaves, and dwelling among hypocrites. When I was first chosen, I believed the Kingdom was taking over immediately. Instead, years passed—explaining the phrase, “my master is delayed.”

    Would you agree that scriptural prophecy supports a period of growth before full Kingdom rulership and servant appointment?

    Estephan

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    EisMe: Do you truly believe nothing has changed? Or is prophecy unfolding in ways you haven’t yet considered?

    Nothing has changed. It should not surprise us that the earliest failed prophets would be mindful that they would be mocked. I'm sure that many of the people who made failed predictions over the centuries have also been mocked. Certainly, the ones in modern times have been mocked mercilessly. Harold Camping is a good example. Did the mockery make his predictions any less wrong? No, they did not.

    As for the signs, there have been many periods in the past when things were far worse than they are today. The Bubonic Plague may have killed as many as a third of the population of the planet at the time, and there have been times with terrible suffering from famine and war and natural disasters. Indeed, the one way in which the modern day differs is that we are suffering less from these problems.

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