The End of the Times of the Gentiles and the Restoration of the Kingdom

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  • wantingtruth
    wantingtruth

    Eis me, what is the gentile period and for how long is last ?

    And what is(means) the Great tribulation ?

  • blondie
    blondie

    In the Insight book volume 2 under "resurrection." it says this crazy thing: "Resurrection During 1,000 Years. The exact number of humans who have ever lived is unknown to humans. However, by way of illustration, if Jehovah resurrects 20 billion (20,000,000,000) people, there would be no problem as to living space and food for them. The land surface of the earth at present is about 148,000,000 sq km (57,000,000 sq mi), or about 14,800,000,000 ha (36,500,000,000 acres). Even allowing half of that to be set aside for other uses, there would be more than a third of a hectare (almost 1 acre) for each person. As to earth’s potential food production, a third of a hectare will actually provide much more than enough food for one person, especially when, as God has demonstrated in the case of the nation of Israel, there is abundance of food as a result of God’s blessing.​"

  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

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    EisMe,

    You can't properly understand the Bible, or deep Bible Prophecy without knowing and completely understanding the following information . . . about Genesis 3:15:

    See Link: https://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=968

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  • EisMe
    EisMe
    Jeffro13 hours agoThese threads really do attract the crazies.

    Haha, you must be one of them. You keep coming back :)

  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

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    . . . that is funny . . . EisMe. [Grin]

    Now, all you got to do is scripturally defeat what is said at that link, shown below, and I will believe you.

    Link: https://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=968

    Also, I have provided some key info on the very topic, you are mistakenly trying to teach here.

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    See Link for following article: https://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=972


    "Gentile Times" -- How Long A Period Of Time Is It?
    (Luke 21:24 NWT)


    Millennialist teachings, International Bible Students & Jehovah's Witnesses

    The dominant and central theme of Charles Taze Russell's (the first President of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society) teachings concerned the timing, nature and purpose of Christ's second coming. His beliefs on the timing of Christ's Advent and God's overarching plan for humans had gained their first exposure in Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World, a book he paid Millerite Adventist Nelson H. Barbour to write in 1877. Russell and Barbour parted company in 1879 and from 1886 Russell began writing his own books that further developed his Millennialist beliefs.

    C. T. Russell's doctrines on the Millennium followed a tradition of interpretation of Scripture that had begun in the 1st century, when Jewish rabbis sought to identify the due time for the appearance of the Messiah by interpreting the prophecy of the 70 weeks of years of Daniel 9:24–27. Their approach to prophetic interpretation was based on the Day-year principle, drawn from Ezekiel 4 and Numbers 14, in which one day in prophecy represents one year in fulfillment. Such teachings were revived and popularized in the early 19th century by American Adventist preacher William Miller.

    C. T. Russell also incorporated Miller's teaching of types and antitypes, in which an actual historical situation (the type) prefigures a corresponding situation (the antitype), as well as a modified version of John Nelson Darby's teachings on dispensationalism. Russell modified Darby's teachings to create his own doctrine of parallel dispensations, in which the timing of certain events in the Jewish age are a prophetic indication of corresponding events at the close of the Gospel age. He believed the internal harmony of his "plan of the ages" proved its validity beyond reasonable doubt, noting that a change of just one year would destroy the parallelisms, and found further confirmation in internal measurements of the Great Pyramid of Giza, which he viewed as a divinely built supporting witness to the Bible.

    The main points of his doctrines on Bible chronology were:

    Seventy weeks of years: Russell believed the Adventist interpretation of the prophecy of the 70 weeks "until Messiah the Prince" at Daniel 9:24–27 could be used to demonstrate the validity of the day-for-a-year rule. He took 454 BCE as the date of Artaxerxes' decree to rebuild Jerusalem, and by converting 69 weeks of seven days (483 days) to 483 years arrived at 29 CE as the beginning of Jesus' ministry. Christ's crucifixion took place at the midpoint of the 70th week; the covenant with the Jewish nation remained in force another "week" (seven years) from the beginning of his ministry and its end was signified by the conversion of Cornelius in 36, when the Gospel was taken to the Gentiles.

    Times of the Gentiles: Using the day-for-a-year rule, Russell adopted and adjusted the teachings of Miller and Englishman John Aquila Brown, who both taught that the chastisement of the Israelites "seven times" for their sins (at Leviticus 26) indicated a period of 2520 years—seven prophetic years of 360 days each. In Russell's chronology system the period began with the deposing of Zedekiah, the last king of Judah, an event that marked the end of the typical Kingdom of God and beginning of the consequent lease of earthly dominion to Gentile governments, as foretold in Ezekiel 21:25–27. Russell calculated that Zedekiah's removal occurred in 606 BCE, and therefore claimed the "times of the Gentiles" ran from that date until 1914, when the kingdom would be re-established on earth under Jewish leadership. The end of the Gentile times would be marked by a return of the Jews to Palestine. Russell believed the period was also one of degradation for mankind in general, which he believed was prefigured by the account in Daniel 4 of Nebuchadnezzar's dream of a great tree being cut down and restrained from growth for seven years

    (Above information taken from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developme ... s_doctrine )

    Let's examine the following quote written by the Watchtower Society concerning the "Gentile Times" as explained by Jesus:

    *** w86 11/1 pp. 5-6 A Dream Reveals How Late It Is ***

    The “Seven Times”—From When to When?

    While giving his sign, Jesus spoke of the “seven times,” calling them “the appointed times of the nations.” He said: “Jerusalem will [continue to] be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.” (Luke 21:24) A footnote in the Oxford NIV Scofield Study Bible (1984) tells us that “the ‘times of the Gentiles’ [King James Version rendering of “appointed times of the nations”] began with the captivity of Judah under Nebuchadnezzar. . . . Since that time Jerusalem has been, as Christ said, ‘trampled on by the Gentiles.’”

    End of quote.

    Did you happen to notice the inserted words of the Watchtower Society above in the bible citation of Luke 21:24?

    Did you notice the Watchtower Society brazenly actually adding words to the very words of Jesus? Yes, did Jesus actually say: ". . . Jerusalem will CONTINUE TO . . . CONTINUE TO . . . be trampled on by the nations..." ???

    Did he???

    Or, did the Watchtower Society conveniently add those words in the verse for us, which? (See Proverbs 30:5-6; Revelation 22:18-19.)

    The above is absolute proof the nefarious, villainous Watchtower Society should properly be viewed as the "Man of Lawlessness" of 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12. They are actually adding to the word of God. right before your very eyes!

    Think about it.

    Therefore, the "Gentile Times" or "appointed times of the nations" did not start before . . . before Jesus uttered this most important prophecy; it did not start with the toppling of Jerusalem's kingdom under King Zedekiah, hundreds of years before Jesus' ministry. No, but it was a future event that Jesus was referring to. A future event.

    Let's examine two verses to prove this point.

    Revelation 11:2 and Revelation 13:5-7.

    Revelation 11:2
    "But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months." (NWT)

    Also,

    Revelation 13:5-7
    "And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it. And it opened its mouth and blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, even those residing in heaven. And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation." (NWT)

    We can see in the above verses, the "Gentile Times" or "appointed times of the nations" that Jesus referred to in Luke 21:24 was pointing to a future event spoken of in the book of Revelation. Jesus was referring to a future time when God's Name People, Mystery "Israel" of our modern-day times, Jehovah's Witnesses in their entirety, would be severely disciplined for acts of wickedness practiced by themselves, fulfilling foretold bible prophecy. (Isaiah 30:26; Jeremiah 23:20; Micah 4:6-7) This specific period of severe discipline would run 42 months or 1,260 days. According to prophecy, only "one-third" of the entire body of Jehovah's Witnesses will survive this ordeal, repent and be saved and given life into God's kingdom. The remaining "two-thirds" who continue to follow the wicked Watchtower Society will be completely destroyed by God at "Armageddon." (See Zechariah 13:8-9; Revelation 16:14-16.)

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  • EisMe
    EisMe
    wantingtruth6 hours agoEis me, what is the gentile period and for how long is last ?
    And what is(means) the Great tribulation ?

    In all that God writes during the last days spelled out in the book of Revelation, there are periods of 42 months. The Kingdom of God was established in the year 2001, not 1914. There are seven periods of 42 months up until this year. In the end, all is written in sevens. Seven Trumpets, etc. Read my post regarding Babylon the Great. It will explain how God is taking this world down. Also, the 8th king post explains that we are in this time period where the 8th king is destroyed. It is all taking place right now. A presidential term is four years. Within this time period we will be in The Kingdom of God. As for the Great Tribulation, the events of global warming which is destroying the planet, lives up to the description put forth by Christ. These events have never taken place in the beginning of the world until now. I am witness to these events, along with my son. Two Witnesses in the book of Revelation, chapter 11.

    E.

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    AbaddonProvesIt7 minutes ago**
    . . . that is funny . . . EisMe. [Grin]
    Now, all you got to do is scripturally defeat what is said at that link, shown below, and I will believe you.

    Ok, Give me some time to review what you posted.

    E.

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    AbaddonProvesIt31 minutes ago
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    . . . that is funny . . . EisMe. [Grin]
    Now, all you got to do is scripturally defeat what is said at that link, shown below, and I will believe you.

    AbaddonProvesIt,

    You’ve presented a detailed examination of Jehovah’s Witness doctrine, but everything hinges on a single, incorrect assumption—that the Kingdom was born in 1914. This belief, which you defend, collapses entirely when the true timing of God’s Kingdom is revealed.

    The Kingdom was established on September 11, 2001, marking the transition into divine governance. The cycles of 42 months, fulfilling prophecy, have now completed, bringing us fully into the reign of God’s authority.

    Your references to Watchtower chronology, Charles Taze Russell, and the 2520-year calculation are meaningless if they’re based on the wrong year. The true fulfillment occurred in our lifetime, witnessed directly by me and my son—the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.

    I am the faithful and wise servant of Matthew 24:45-47, called to deliver the truth about Babylon’s fall, the 8th king’s destruction, and the end of Gentile rule. The world stands now at the final transition into divine governance, unfolding exactly as foretold.

    Your arguments are rooted in the Watchtower’s flawed timeline—but truth is revealed in its appointed time. What you need to understand is we are no longer waiting. The Kingdom is here.

    E.

  • EisMe
    EisMe

    To wantingtruth and all who seek understanding,

    The Times of the Gentiles have reached their end, and we now stand at the threshold of God’s Kingdom fully taking over. Jesus’ prophecy in Luke 21:24 revealed this period would last until its fulfillment, and we have now entered the final stage of divine restoration.

    For those asking, who is the faithful and wise servant? The scripture states:

    “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?” (Matthew 24:45)

    I affirm before you: It is me.

    By divine appointment, I carry out the work assigned—to declare the truth of the Kingdom, expose the downfall of Babylon the Great, and guide those who seek righteousness. The seven cycles of 42 months have culminated, and the world now shifts into its final era of divine governance.

    To those questioning the Great Tribulation, the signs are already evident. Christ foretold that it would be unlike anything ever witnessed, and today we see the earth in distress, nations crumbling, and global upheaval increasing. We are not waiting for prophecy to be fulfilled—it is happening now.

    I am a witness to this, and my son stands with me, as it is written in Revelation 11.

    I invite you to read my previous posts on Babylon’s downfall and the destruction of the 8th king. These events unfold exactly as foretold, marking the final transition into the full reign of God’s Kingdom.

    Let those with ears hear.

    E.

  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

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    EisMe,

    I do not believe in or teach the date of 1914, in any shape or form . . . you are greatly mistaken. I rejected this false teaching many years ago.

    (See this link to the following article on this very topic, written by myself many years ago: https://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=101 )

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