We are not prophets, we do not prophesy -Watchtower

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  • Darth FayDehr
    Darth FayDehr

    “We are not prophets”
    Many terms in the English language has interchangeable equivalents and are therefore ripe for semantic juggling tricks! Consider this technique:

    • Outright denial of the term.
    • Cite Bible as authority, shifting the blame and responsibility; implying reader lacks faith in the Bible and not us.
    • Invoke God, and make indistinguishable connection with our organization, implying equal authority.
    • Outright admission of the term; obfuscation by using both terms interchangeably.

    For example: “We do not make predictions” (We simply forecast)
    We do not claim to predict the future. Whilst we keep watch on world events as these fulfil Bible predictions, we will only forecast what such clear Bible prophecies predict. God’s predictions will never fail, and we can have the utmost confidence of the forecasts made by his Organization. Never would we want to reject God’s timely predictions, as forecasted through His Organization.

    And as can be seen in the Oxford dictionary, the above paragraph is duplicitous deception.

    PREDCITION: A thing predicted; a forecast (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/prediction)

    FORECAST: A calculation or estimate of future events (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/forecast)

    The same above technique can be (and sadly frequently is) used with the term "prophet" and terms such as "warnings", "light", "God's organization" and so on.

  • eyeuse2badub

    They are Profits now! You can bet that there was a "Profit among them" as they sell off KH's built with volunteer labor!

    just saying!

  • Finkelstein

    The Watchtower Corporation has been a fear mongering apocalyptic publishing house for over 100 years. It exploited the belief in the bible by the general public to proliferate its publications and to enhance the distribution of it by devoted subservient members. (JWS)

    Jehovah or Jesus wouldn't have a thing to do with this commercialized false prophet according to Scripture.

  • Vidiot

    Isn't it obvious that at this point, the WTS uses their own Dictionary? :smirk:

  • blondie


    Well, then, has the outpouring of holy spirit accompanied by prophesying continued into this twentieth century? Yes; and by means of this test we can ascertain what is the organization to which to be loyal now.


    5, 6. At the end of World War I, in the face of the postwar work that lay ahead of them, the surviving remnant of Jehovah’s people felt like what prophet who faced the destruction of Jerusalem in his lifetime?

    5 After World War I ended in 1918, the circumstances of the remnant of spiritual Israelites and the work ahead of them took on a likeness to those of a young man over there in the turbulent Middle East. He was a Jewish priest named Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah. The city of Jerusalem, in the temple of which he served as a priest, was doomed to destruction within his own lifetime. No less does Christendom, which claims to be the spiritual counterpart and the supplanter of ancient Israel in God’s favor, face early destruction, immediately before the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon. As a survivor of the destruction of the Jerusalem of the seventh century before our Common Era, Jeremiah was able, under inspiration, to write the book of Lamentations over its ruins.

    6 When the prophetic work was set before the young Jeremiah, he said: “Alas, O Sovereign Lord Jehovah! Here I actually do not know how to speak, for I am but a boy.” But Jeremiah was told: “Do not say, ‘I am but a boy.’ But to all those to whom I shall send you, you should go; and everything that I shall command you, you should speak. Do not be afraid because of their faces, for ‘I am with you to deliver you,’ is the utterance of Jehovah.”​—Jeremiah 1:4-8.

    7. (a) Jeremiah was to serve as a prophet to how many, and in behalf of how many does a “prophet” need to serve today? (b) Does his serving to this extent mean that he will have success with respect to the nations, or in whose behalf is consideration still being shown?

    7 Jeremiah was to perform the part of a full-grown man, for what his God inspired him to write was to be of importance to all mankind, even today. A “prophet to the nations” is what Jehovah made him. (Jeremiah 1:5) Now today, if anything, there needs to be a “prophet to the nations,” as patriotic self-willed nations are being inexorably gathered to an all-deciding showdown at Har–Magedon. Not that the God-given message of the modern “prophet to the nations” will be successful in turning them from a course that leads to their sure destruction, but there are human individuals involved. Such individuals without number, on being warned, would not want to perish with the nations of which they are citizens. If these can do anything about it, they do not want to be caught fighting against the Almighty God just in the interest of human self-government. In behalf of such right-hearted individuals Jehovah has considerately raised up his “prophet to the nations.” Jehovah has done this during this “time of the end,” since World War I ended on November 11, 1918.​—Daniel 12:4.

    8. The “prophet” whom Jehovah has raised up and whose work must be finished before Har–Magedon is identified as who or what?

    8 In behalf of such individuals who at heart seek God’s rule instead of man’s rule, the “prophet” whom Jehovah has raised up has been, not an individual man as in the case of Jeremiah, but a class. The members of this class are, like the prophet-priest Jeremiah, wholly dedicated to Jehovah God through Christ and, by the begettal of Jehovah’s holy spirit, they have been made part of “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession.” (1 Peter 2:9) At this late date there is a mere remnant of this “prophet” class yet on earth. The “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon could not start before this composite “prophet” ends his work.

    9. (a) The victory of what world power over the capital of Jehovah’s ancient people did Jeremiah witness? (b) What ancient city pictures Christendom? (c) Of what has Christendom become a part? (d) When Babylon the Great is destroyed, what will happen to Christendom, and why?

    9 One thing is now certain: if the “prophet” class, the Jeremiah class, is facing Har–Magedon, it is also facing the fall of Babylon the Great. It is true that Jeremiah of old did not witness the fall of ancient Babylon, but he prophesied on a large scale about the overthrow of that third world power of Bible history. Having its roots in the original Babel, or Babylon, as established by Nimrod “a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah,” that world empire infected the ancient world of mankind with its false religion. (Genesis 10:8-12) Jeremiah did witness the triumph of ancient Babylon over Jerusalem in 607 BCE. Thus he witnessed the victory of the ancient capital of false religion over the capital city that had Jehovah’s temple in it but that had corrupted the pure religion that He had committed to it. For this reason ancient Jerusalem pictures modern-day Christendom. False to its claim to being the realm of true Christianity, Christendom has fallen victim to Babylonish religion and has actually become a prominent part of modern Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion. When Babylon the Great is destroyed by the disgusted political elements of this world, as foretold in Revelation, chapters 17 and 18, Christendom will go down into destruction with it.

    10. Jeremiah’s surviving the fall of Jerusalem prefigured what, and shortly after the latter, what effort by the nations will fail?

    10 Jeremiah survived the fall of Jerusalem and her realm in 607 BCE, this confirming him as being Jehovah’s true mouthpiece; and, true to that prophetic picture, the Jeremiah class of today will survive the approaching violent fall of Christendom. Not long afterward the nonreligious elements of this system of things will viciously strive to wipe the Jeremiah class out of existence, but their efforts to do so will be squashed​—at Har–Magedon.​—Revelation 16:16; 19:19-21.


    22 The holy spirit, which Jehovah prophesied that he would pour out in the last days, has not ceased to operate, for the remnant are still baptizing disciples of Christ in the name of that spirit. (Matthew 28:19, 20; Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21) The announced purpose behind God’s pouring out of his spirit upon all sorts of flesh was that the recipients thereof might prophesy. The facts substantiate that the remnant of Christ’s anointed disciples have been doing that prophesying to all the nations for a witness in favor of God’s kingdom. Logically, then, they must be the ones upon whom God’s spirit has actually been poured out. That spirit is behind their worldwide preaching. Why argue about it?

  • Finkelstein

    Respect to Blondie she always comes through .

  • zeb

    stay alive till ...'75.

    was a prediction/prophesy if ever there was one.

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