Prove It!

by Chap 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Chap

    Farkel said:

    Let me ask you a question, then: can "everything" exist if the only set is "nothing?"

    I see two possibilities. There can be "it exists" or "it does not exist" We are in the "subset" as you call it, "it exists" which can understand "nothing" as a concept. We are not in the "subset" "it does not exist." If "nothing" exists, than the concept "everything" would not exist. The concept "nothing" would not exist either.

  • Brummie

    This thread is much ado about nothing.

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    Contrariwise, if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic. -- Tweedledee, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

  • Farkel

    Jack Oliver,

    : Farkel, I bow down to you supreme all knowing omnipotent one. I guess you proved your point. Your brain is "something" with "nothing" in it.

    That's not what is considered an "argument" in knowledgeable circles. That's what is called an "ad hominem", i.e. attack the messenger and ignore the message.

    Only assholes and JWs use that type of false argument. Which one are you?


  • Chap

    I have heard it said from the pulpit that God created out of nothing. I have also heard it said (from the same pulpit) that God is omnipresent. If God is omnipresent, (present at all places at all times) than nothing does not exist unless parts of God do not exist. So it seems to me that God did not create out of nothing but out of what exists or himself. (Side note; would the proper term be themself? I know this is not an English word but it seems to be the proper term.)

    I have heard it said from the pulpit that God exists outside of time. Since time is measured in terms of infinity (without beginning or end) than is it possible for God to exist outside of themself?

    More tomorrow (maybe)

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