Details of Noah’s Ark

by enigma1863 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  enigma1863

  JW magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.

  Is it detailed? Is it a fable/fairytale/myth
  

  • Name one person outside of Noah’s family
  • Name one Nephilim. Give some detail, how did they know they were mighty men? We’re they giants?
  • How many animals were on the ark
  • Besides the materials of gopher wood and pitch what did Noah use
  • How many compartments were in the ark?
  • How big was each room?
  • If I have a carpenter a blue print for a house and only gave the dimensions and materials would he really praise me on the details?
  • Did Noah use traps to catch the animals? Did he build cages?
  • Did the ark have ladders or stairs?
  • Did they use ropes and pulleys
  • How did they see inside with one window? lamp oils?candles?
  • There is more detail in the ark of the covenant than the ark of Noah.
  • Only three chapters on Noah. Three small verses describing the ark and its construction.
  • Exedus 37 9 verses building the ark of the covenant with an additional 20 for the table lamps and incense.

  The point is not to bring up “got you” questions. It’s to show there isn’t really much detail at all in these stories. No where near what a true historian would present. It has about as much detail as the Trojan horse myth.
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  RULES & REGULATIONS

  Noah could of never built the Ark. Look at what it took to build this replica. Humanly impossible, without modern engineering and equipment.

  

  Cary Summers, who headed Herschend Family Entertainment from 1992 to 1998, was hired as the lead consultant for the Ark Encounter.[25] Patrick Marsh, who helped design exhibits for the Creation Museum and previously designed attractions for Universal Studios Florida, was part of the planning and design team.[47] The Troyer Group, a construction firm in Mishawaka, Indiana, was contracted to oversee construction of the ark, which was constructed by Amish builders using traditional timber framing techniques.[27][48] In total, over 1,000 craftsmen were employed in the ark's construction.[49] As possible, board pulling was used rather than steaming. Steel nails were used to conform with building code regulations.[1]

  While the builders originally planned to hold the ark together with wooden pegs, modern building codes required the builders to use steel fasteners, thus 95 tons of metal plates and bolts were used to connect the wood together.[50] The electric lighting inside was designed to look like oil lamps.[9] According to AiG, the Ark Encounter is the largest timber frame structure in the United States.[2]

  AiG considered twelve different possible lengths for the biblical cubit, and AiG chose to use a length of 20.1 inches (51 cm); this produced plans for an ark measuring 510 feet (155 m) long, 85 feet (26 m) wide, and 51 feet (16 m) high.[51] The Ark Encounter consists of approximately 3,300,000 board feet (7,800 m3) of wood.[1] The framing of the ark consists mostly of Engelmann spruce, while the exterior is made of pine; some of the logs were as long as 50 feet (15 m) long and 36 inches (91 cm) in diameter.[52]
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  redvip2000

  Humanly impossible, without modern engineering and equipment.

  Well sure, but once you introduce the magic wand of Jellohoba then it becomes possible. After all he made polar bears and koalas fly over oceans to get to the ark. Why even make Noah build anything at all? Why wouldn't Jellohoba simply make an ark appear already built?

  Somehow, god always takes the most cumbersome and difficult path to accomplish anything. He leaves zillions of angels sitting around doing nothing, while making pesky little humans struggle to do anything.
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  waton

  the naive writers of the story had no idea what a flood would be like that rises at ~ 10 meters an hour, the turbulence, the forces of the repeated pounding on such a large wooden vessel, held together by dowels, tenons and dove tail joints. How about the inevitable waves, with a worldwide reach not limited by coastlines coming every 2 minutes or so.

  all these bible stories are insulting in the light of what we know now. The fact that the "co creator" of the mighty cosmos endorsed it, speaks volumes about the authenticity of the claims.
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  wozza

  Well as far as heating and light that would be covered by taking some bamboo from a desert and sticking lengths of it up the rectums of the creatures and collecting the ample quantities of Methane gas ,very useful stuff.

  Come to think of it gods people have been blowing gas out their bums for a very long time.
  
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  RULES & REGULATIONS

  Somehow, god always takes the most cumbersome and difficult path to accomplish anything. He leaves zillions of angels sitting around doing nothing, while making pesky little humans struggle to do anything.

  Genesis 6:

  11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. 13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.

  ''All the people''... So, every baby, young children, grandmother, grandfather were all full of violence? God has ( a 500 year old ) Noah build an Ark ( with primitive tools) that takes over 100 years to build. God destroys every living thing with the flood. Why didn't God send in angels with swords and kill those who were evil? Why didn't God strike everyone with a heart attack like the story of Ananias and Sapphira for just stealing money?

  If this story is true, what did God accomplish with the flood, as evil comes back a hundred times fold?
  
  
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  punkofnice

  enigma - JW magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.

  Well, they would. The Jobots will agree without question. They really are good little sheeple, aren't they. Brainwashing from the Corporation(tm) has worked wonders.

  As long as TOMO can get his whiskey and stay drunk, slurring his words and staggering about, the Corporation(tm) will continue to spew it's excrement.
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  TonusOH

  Genesis 6:4 - The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

  If we go only by the Genesis account, the Nephilim were 'heroes' and 'men of renown.' There are two other mentions, one in Ezekiel (which refers to mighty warriors, but does not use the word Nephilim) and one in Numbers (which, presumably, refers to their existence after the flood? The verse above seems to imply this as well).

  The verse in Genesis seems like it was added in at some point, as it doesn't seem to fit in context. In any case, they seem like heroes of legend and not wicked dominators of men (though the verse in Numbers implies that they did terrorize people). Many cultures revere the powerful people who led them and/or kept them safe, and over time these characters are mythologized.
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  peacefulpete

  Numbers 13:33: "We saw the Nephilim there, as the Anakites come from the Nephilim. We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them".

  Deuteronomy 1:28 "The people are stronger and taller than we are; the cities are huge, with walls up to the sky. We even saw the Anakites there."
  
  
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  peacefulpete

  Deut 2:10 `The Emim formerly have dwelt in it, a people great, and numerous, and tall, as the Anakim;

  11 Rephaim they are reckoned, they also, as the Anakim; and the Moabites call them Emim.

  20 `A land of Rephaim it is reckoned, even it; Rephaim dwelt in it formerly, and the Ammonites call them Zamzummim;

  
  
  

  The legendary giants went by a number of names. Nephilim, Rephaim, Anakites, Emin and others.

  I'll also repeat what I said on another thread, Nimrod was one of the Nephilim, "mighty ones" a child of the gods.

  The Flood story (and tower story) interrupts the narrative. The table of 70 nations is itself also an earlier addition.

  Of course famously Goliath of Gath is said to be Rephaim and a giant. He is killed in one legend by David in another by Elhanan. Also, Og and Dodo and another giant described only as having 24 toes and fingers.