Major events that Bible did not foretell!

by iconoclastic 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  iconoclastic

  JWs feel that their strength lies in the power of Bible to foretell. However, an impartial analysis would show that Bible’s prophecies are too general, and yet some of the major developments in the world scene were not figured in its prophecies—especially those that are very much needed for what it calls “Last Days.” To mention a few:

  1) Talking about the end of the world has been the work of religious people so far. But now it is also done by Government Agencies: “NASA WARNS NOTHING CAN STOP DANGEROUS SEA LEVEL RISE.” (http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002383837, 31/8/2015) “Ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica are melting faster than ever, and oceans are warming and expanding much more rapidly than they have in years past. Right now we have committed to probably more than three feet [one meter] of sea level rise… there is no reason to expect that ice sheets will melt at the same pace as they did in the past. According to the laws of physics, they will deteriorate faster. And they already are.” (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/08/27/world/science-health-world/ice-sheets-thaw-speed-sea-level-rise-threatening-florida-tokyo-pacific-isles-nasa-scientists/#.VhtjMNKqqko) “In 2013, global CO2 emissions due to fossil fuel use (and cement production) were 36 gigatonnes (36000000000 metric tons); this is 61% higher than 1990 (the Kyoto Protocol reference year) and 2.3% higher than 2012” (http://co2now.org/Current-CO2/CO2-Now/global-carbon-emissions.html) Situation is likely to continue to worsen as religious leaders and politicians are dependent on the money business people donate to them.

  2) Targeting the innocent people who are in no way connected with conflicted parties is a marked departure from conventional war-pattern, and it goes on increasing globally despite the combined effort of virtually all world governments. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wrost-year-global-terrorism-2014-article-1.2130490) This too Bible did not foresee.

  3) Interestingly, there is a prophecy that backfired on the Bible. “Never. Can a mother forget her nursing child? Can she feel no love for the child she has borne? But even if that were possible, I would not forget you.” (Isaiah 49:15) Here a mother forsaking her child is spoken as an exception that may happen too rarely. According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 million abortions. (http://www.worldometers.info/abortions/) No war has killed that many innocent lives in a year. Yet this happens every year, in this part of the history.
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  Ruby456

  lol @ iconoclastic - whenever I read your posts I get the impression of a heavy man (of elephantine proportions) trying to tread gently but failing miserably

  I'm not pro or anti abortion but consider this: many women have abortions so that they can mother civilization. How many had abortions so that they can continue their studies, shape their careers and enrich humanity in the process. Most do not choose abortion lightly and often are left with scars that never heal and they are constantly confronted with the awful reality of not forgetting and not forsaking. That prophecy has not backfired - it is very awfully present for many women (edited to add) as it was for women in bible times. Women lost unborn children much more than they do now for example. Thankfully men and women choose not to live in awful reality all the time and endeavour to take a God's eye view of reality to get by and be happy
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  cofty

  Cult...
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  cofty

  The Times of India reports that a Brahma Kumari center-in-charge absconds from the police, yet again, following accusations of multiple sexual abuses at a BK centre … ending in a forced abortion....
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  cofty

  PATNA: A Prajapita Brahmakumari sevika lodged an FIR with the Patna women police station on Monday alleging that a male coordinator of the organization has been sexually abusing her for the last four years.
  Anila (name changed), 19, in her FIR said, "Lalan, 35, the male coordinator of the Fatuha branch of the organization, has been sexually abusing me ever since I joined the organization in 2009. Initially, he used to molest me but, later, he started having physical relationship. He promised to marry me. I had undergone abortion twice in the last four years. Finally, he refused to marry me. I belong to a poor family. So, I could not tell my family members about it," she added...
  
  She also alleged that the authorities of Fatuha unit of Prajapita Brahmakumari invite guests from outside and the 'sevikas' are forced to entertain them. "I narrated my story to the Kankarbagh unit of the organization but to no avail. They rather asked me not to lodge any police complaint," said Anila.
  
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  Witness My Fury

  let's review: It's a cult Jim, but not as we know it!
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  iconoclastic

  Dear Ruby456,

  The category of women undergoing abortion for the reasons cited by you could be very few in number, and they are exceptions. At this time of what is called Information Age, a number of that size (which is more than double the size of Australia’s population) is inexcusable. What if we add the case of abortions that go unreported?
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  iconoclastic

  Dear Cofty

  Whoever contributes to global warming, terrorism, abortion as a birth-control means, sexual abuse, molestation or anything like that you may cite will reap appropriate consequence—I agree with you. Everyone is free to do what he likes, but no one is free to evade its consequences (Galatians 6:7)
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  SecretSlaveClass

  Icon:

  I'll atempt an intelligent comment on your silly threads for a change, so I'll adress each point to show you how ridiculous you sound:

  1) I agree with this point. Imagine that!

  2)Targeting the innocent people who are in no way connected with conflicted parties is a marked departure from conventional war-pattern, and it goes on increasing globally despite the combined effort of virtually all world governments. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wrost-year-global-terrorism-2014-article-1.2130490) This too Bible did not foresee.

  
  

  Absolute nonsense! In WW2 both sides killed tens of thousands of innocents purposely when they bombed entire cities, the germans straffed refugees, murdered millions in detah camps and the Japanese bayonetted tens of thousands. Civillian targettimg was on an unprecedented scale which to this day has never been witnessed again - almost 30,500 000 over a roughly seven year period. http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-two/civilian-casualties-of-world-war-two/

  That's approximately 4,357,142 per year. compare that with estimated terror casualties of 2013 - about 17 958.

  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-30086435

  3) Interestingly, there is a prophecy that backfired on the Bible. “Never. Can a mother forget her nursing child? Can she feel no love for the child she has borne? But even if that were possible, I would not forget you.” (Isaiah 49:15) Here a mother forsaking her child is spoken as an exception that may happen too rarely. According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 million abortions.(http://www.worldometers.info/abortions/) No war has killed that many innocent lives in a year. Yet this happens every year, in this part of the history.

  How is this a prophecy? Please explain. You just pulled something out of the bible and claim it's a prophecy?

  The stuff you post is utter garbage and you know it. Posting such intellectually dishonest crap exposes you not just as someone without a clue about reality, but also as someone who is far more stupid than the people he assumes will be ignorant and naive enough to buy into your useless garbage.

  
  
  
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  iconoclastic

  Dear SecretSlaveClass

  I agree with you that in many wars there were civilian casualties, and there might have been civilians ALSO who were targeted. In other words, in wars, civilians are also killed.

  But a war that is targeting the innocent is what terrorism is, as being practiced now. And in terrorism, defense personnel too may be killed but not as prime target (just as civilians are also killed in the normal war not as prime target).

  This is what I said as the marked difference! Casualty may be less than that of world wars, but threat perception the terrorism has created is more than that of all those normal wars. Everyone on the earth lives in fear now. Even the President of the sole Super Power should sleep is determined by them—He needs a no-fly zone above his residence even when he visits other countries). Travel has become extremely difficult even for the former president of the largest democracy in the world. (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Former-President-APJ-Abdul-Kalam-frisked-twice-in-US/articleshow/10714158.cms)