If the elders were abused sexually this problem would have been taken care of long time ago.

by Still Totally ADD 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • rebelfighter

    Still Totally ADD,

    I unfortunately can relate to alot of the abuse stories told here as I was raised by a single alcoholic mother who was both physically and verbally abusive. It show ed me the kind of mother I did not want yo be. Then I married a verbally abusive husband. I raised 2 children with learning disabilities so I became a child's advocate for both of them to make sure they got the education that they deserved, as I put education as a very high priority. I quickly learned that many kids were not getting this service so I started advocating for friends kids. School administrators knew that I knew the laws so when I showed up with parents their attitudes would change and OH Yes we will test your child according to the law. Funny how that works.

    I am now in my 60s but even in my 20s my name says it all, I am a Rebel and a Fighter. If I had been a JW first time someone would have touched a child in a KH would have been the last time. I have gotten men fired from position of authority in companies I worked for. I have threatened companies with discrimination suits for statements "well, he is a man he deserves to be paid more". I won that one and the man saying that was forced into retirement. I assisted in putting a man in prison for 15 years for sexual abuse of 3 children, he would have gotten more but he plea bargained.

    My heart goes out to everyone of you who have lived through this nightmare of a cult. I so regret the day I gave the Elder my phone number but I make a point now if I see literature being handed out to ask 3 questions then I remind them the 10 commandments says though shall not lie. They leave in a hurry. Funny they never return to that site ever again! !!

  • OrphanCrow


    Johnathan Drake,
    I don't know where you're getting your facts/ statistics, it is incorrect. Most sex offenders were Not sexually assaulted as children and it is a misconception that a child who's sexually assaulted is more likely to become a predator or homosexual.
    secondly, statistics have shown for years that a person who is sexually abused is more likely to be come a sexual predator. I have read that in many places

    I won't address the "homosexual" part of your statement, but if you really are interested in the provision of statistical information on the prediction of becoming an adult perpetuator after being abused as a child, the following study will provide it for you:

    Cycle of child sexual abuse: links between being a victim and becoming a perpetrator

    Background There is widespread belief in a ‘cycle’ of child sexual abuse, but little empirical evidence for this belief.
    Aims To identify perpetrators of such abuse who had been victims of paedophilia and/or incest, in order to: ascertain whether subjects who had been victims become perpetrators of such abuse; compare characteristics of those who had and had not been victims; and review psychodynamic ideas thought to underlie the behaviour of perpetrators.
    Method Retrospective clinical case note review of 843 subjects attending a specialist forensic psychotherapy centre.
    Results Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood.
    Conclusions The data support the notion of a victim-to-victimiser cycle in a minority of male perpetrators but not among the female victims studied. Sexual abuse by a female in childhood may be a risk factor for a cycle of abuse in males.

    Illuminated, your statement that most child abusers were not victims themselves is correct. However, the above study does show that being a child victim has a bearing on some perpetuators. Not all and not most...but it does have a bearing. In the perpetuator group, 35% had been child victims and in the non-perpetuator group, 11% had been victimized.

    The above study identifies several other factors that will have a bearing and it is the combination of those factors that need to be considered. Being a child victim is only one of the contributing factors.

  • Still Totally ADD
    Still Totally ADD
    Thank you rebelfighter for your life experience in helping children and thank you OrphanCrow for the research on these matters. It seems this subject brings strong feelings. I know I felt like I had been beaten up after writing this post. But I do feel doing this is good for the soul. Still Totally ADD

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