Why Do Some Defend the Butcher of Baghdad?

by Perry 41 Replies latest jw friends

  • dubla
    dubla

    rev-

    I have to say......if any of you guys think we don't have the same weapons, wake up. We have them all and more, and Saddam has every right in the world to defend his country.

    i never said or even implied that we dont have the same weapons....of course we do. th was just trying to say that no one on this board has defended saddams right to rule his country (which with that right also comes the right to defend his country).....and obviously there are many here that believe has those rights.

    aa

  • Defender
    Defender

    You should ask this question of Rumsfeld and the US Government because they are the ones that helped arm Saddam with those horrible WMD.

    While you are at it why dont you ask them about these horrible atrocities committed by no less butchers and madmen.

    http://www.geocities.com/raize_som_hell/pictures.htm

    http://hiroshima.tomato.nu/English/park_ma/morgue_w14.html#w14-1

    http://hiroshima.tomato.nu/English/park_ma/morgue_w17.html#w17-1

  • Pleasuredome
    Pleasuredome

    No Link Between Iraq
    and Al-Qaeda Says UN

    1-22-3
    UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - The United Nations panel monitoring sanctions against Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network has no evidence of links between the terrorist group and Iraq, group chairman Michael Chandler says.
    "We don't have anything yet, and no-one has been able to produce anything," he told AFP in an interview.
    British Prime Minister Tony Blair told a parliamentary hearing in London on Tuesday that "there is some intelligence evidence about linkages between members of al-Qaeda and people in Iraq." He did not identify the individuals.
    Speaking a day after seven people were arrested in a dramatic police raid on a mosque in north London, Blair said it was "inevitable" that terrorists would try to target Britain.
    But he said he was unaware of any evidence that "directly links" al-Qaeda, Iraq and "terrorist activities" in Britain.
    Chandler, who described al-Qaeda in a report to the UN Security Council as "a substantial threat, globally, to peace and security," said it was not obviously "in either side's interests to be linked at this stage."
    He noted that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein runs what is "still quite a secular country" distinct from the Islamic regime of bin Laden's ambitions, and added: "Saddam doesn't want a caliphate; he wants to be in charge."
    Chandler chaired a panel of five set up in January last year to monitor the enforcement of sanctions originally imposed in 1999 on al-Qaeda and the Taliban regime then in power and harbouring it in Afghanistan.
    The Security Council renewed the sanctions -- an arms embargo, a financial assets freeze and travel ban -- in a resolution Friday which asked UN Secretary General Kofi Annan to re-appoint the panel.
    It also asked governments to update reports on steps they had taken to enforce sanctions.
    British Prime Minister Tony Blair told a parliamentary hearing in London on Tuesday that "there is some intelligence evidence about linkages between members of al-Qaeda and people in Iraq." He did not identify the individuals.
    But he said he was unaware of any evidence that "directly links" al-Qaeda, Iraq and "terrorist activities" in Britain
    anybody believe these 2 statements aren't bullshit?

    did anyone ask mr Blair about Bush's connections with Bin Laden and his banker and funder, Khalid Bin Mahfouz?

  • Perry
    Perry

    Pleasuredome,

    Please explain the relevancy of your post. To my knowledge, Bush or Powell hasn't even brought up this subject as a reason for disarming Iraq.

    I'm sure this child's mother doesn't give a ficus whether or not Saddaam is supporting al queda....and neither do I.

  • dubla
    dubla

    th-

    That's what you said, you dumbass, now show me a link where people defended him being in power

    so you label anyone that disagrees with you a "dumbass", and then when the links and quotes you asked for are provided (proving your statements ridiculous)....no acknowlegement?

    aa

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Trauma Hound:

    Bro, your challenge as been proven and your name calling betrays your very poor thinking position regarding this issue. Repent.

  • Pleasuredome
    Pleasuredome

    perry

    its very simple if you keep abreast of world politic. tony blair is trying his level best to convince the british public that action is needed against iraq. he needs to justify support for the US for the military build up and threats, and sending british military to the gulf too. because he has nothing to go, in th past couple of days he's trying to link iraq with al qaeda as a scaremongering tactic to make think 'Yer, saddam does pose a threat to us', especially since the ricin arrests made in london and manchester.

    also a mosque was raided in london where radical cleric Abu Hamza is based who has been suspected of links to al qaeda for a number of years. police had monitered thousands of coded messages going to and from this mosque to suspected terrorists groups.

    other than that, just the fact that iraq isnt a present danger anymore than its been for the past 20 years.

  • Perry
    Perry

    Mr Blair said:

    "It concludes that Iraq has chemical and biological weapons, that Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which could be activated within 45 minutes, including against his own Shia population; and that he is actively trying to acquire nuclear weapons capability."

    The dossier reveals that Iraq has been trying to buy significant quantities of uranium from Africa, although it is not known whether he has been successful.

    Having outlined the evidence against the Iraqi regeime, Mr Blair said:

    "The threat therefore is not imagined. The history of Saddam and WMD is not American or British propaganda. The history and the present threat are real."

    "And if people say: why should Britain care? I answer: because there is no way that this man, in this region above all regions, could begin a conflict using such weapons and the consequences not engulf the whole world."

    Pleasuredome,

    You're right Saddam has been a threat to peace for a very long time. Containment hasn't worked. But, civilised nations always try to avoid war. The free world has been patient for many years. Saddam is hell bent on acquiring WMD and has shown that he is willing to use them.

    The Council on Foreign relations had this to say:

    Has Iraq sponsored terrorism?
    Yes. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has provided bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to Palestinian terror groups. The Bush administration calls the threat that Saddam might provide weapons of mass destruction to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network or other terrorists a key reason for possible preemptive military action against Iraq.

    The recent proliferation of terrorism has tipped the balance from containment toward regime change in Iraq and I am personally in agreement with this change in foreign policy.

  • dolphman
    dolphman

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/23/iraq.alqaeda/index.html

    Looks to me like Saddam and Al-Quieda could be possible connected after all.....

  • pettygrudger
    pettygrudger

    Good try Dolphman - where ya been - on a crack binge or in rehab?

    Some in the U.S. intelligence community have questioned whether officials in these countries were aware of Zarqawi's presence, because he might have been using aliases.

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