If you disagree with Penton or with the content of Schulz and de Vienne's books, support your opinion with some facts. Start with reading the books. Something you so obviously have not done. old goat
Funny how people assume. In order to show facts from baseless ideology assuming you have personal proof of your assertions, without having to rely on people that for all intent and purposes is just to make money on lies, can be easily achieved by looking elsewhere.
I believe I mentioned “The forgotten prophet” which is the theme book your referencing, Isn’t that correct? Schulz and deVienne: Nelson Barbour: The Millennium's Forgotten Prophet, 2009. Unless you are referring to another.
The false and misleading impression with Barbour after 1844.
1. Adventists in the Geneseo area met in Springwater to await the second coming in 1843. Their disappointment was profound, and Barbour suffered a crisis of faith. Later, he would write: “We held together until the autumn of 1844. Then, as if a raft floating in deep water should suddenly disappear from under its living burden, so our platform went from under us, and we made for shore in every direction; but our unity was gone, and, like drowning men, we caught at straws.” [Barbour, N. H.: Evidences for the Coming of the Lord in 1873, Or the Midnight Cry, 1871, page 26.]
2. What was Barbour’s mindset he was disappointed.” Barbour abandoned his faith. He pursued a medical career, becoming a Medical Electrician, a therapist who treated disease through the application of electric current. It was seen as a valid therapy in those days.
What did Barbour invest his time on while rethinking life? “He left for Australia to prospect for Gold, returning via London in 1859. There is some evidence that he preached on occasion while in Australia. A ship-board discussion with a clergyman reactivated his interest in Bible prophecy. He consulted books on prophetic themes at the British Library and became convinced that 1873 would mark the return of Christ. This was not a new speculation but had been advanced by others at least as early as 1823.
4. Charles Taze Russell, age left the Presbyterian Church to join a congregational church. Independent from his upbringing. Did C.T. Russell even consider Miller at this point? 1865 NO! Is there any publicans to suggest Russell was influenced by Miller at this time? NO! Did Russell know of Barbour at this Time? NO! Why, at that time, Barbour became an inventor and associated with Peter Cooper, the founder of Cooper Union. He patented several inventions. By 1863 he was in medical practice, dividing his time between Auburn and Rochester, New York. He returned to London in 1864 to demonstrate one of his inventions. He used his association with other inventors and scientists to spread his end-times doctrine, and some of his earliest associates in that belief were inventors and physicians.
Barbour return to spirituality.” He published
something as early as 1867, though it has been lost. In 1871 he wrote and
published a small book entitled Evidences for the Coming of the Lord in 1873,
or The Midnight Cry. It quickly went through two printings and articles by him
started appearing in the Second Adventist press, notably the World’s Crisis.
A significant movement advocating 1873 grew up, though it was divided into several parties. Jonas Wendell lead one; another centered on the magazine The Watchman’s Cry, and the rest associated most closely with Barbour. British Barbourites were represented by Elias H. Tuckett, a clergyman.
6. Charles Taze Russell.” At age sixteen, a discussion with a childhood friend on faults perceived in Christianity such as contradictions in creeds, along with medieval traditions led Russell to question his faith. He then investigated various other religions, but concluded that they did not provide the answers he was seeking. 1868. Was there any involvement or partnership between Barbour and Russell at this time? NO! Russell ended up questioning scripture but to better understand it not abandon it like Barbour. It wasn’t until 1870 at age eighteen that the young Russell attended and Advent meeting under Jonas Wendell. This was the first time Russell heard anything to do with the Advent movement. Did he get influenced by it, not necessarily, because he stated: that although he did not entirely agree with the arguments presented by Wendell, the presentation was sufficient to inspire within him a renewed zeal and re-establish his belief that the Bible is the word of God. To believe in the Bible, not the ideology of the Advent movement portrayed by ignorant and stupid people of 1873-1874.
I could continue, but its tedious work, and I’m not here to teach you a history lesson.
Untimely when Barbour and Russell agreed to a partnership in 1878 it was short lived. Why, because Barbour NOT Russell continued with his Advent views which Russell DISAGREED with. They had a falling out and they went their separate ways with their own publicans. Was Russell ever influenced by the advent movement, NO!
So before you consider someone doesn’t know the lies and deception published by ignorant people just to make money, I suggest you read all the publicans you depict as being true, and before you embarrass yourself any further by suggesting I haven’t proven anything, that will suggest volumes to a none chronologist.