Road Rage Kills JW; Should Mom Commit Suicide?

by Funchback 15 Replies latest social current

  • Funchback
    Funchback

    Quite an interesting (and sad) story. In my opinion, the victim's mom echoes the thoughts of many a JW, that being this: That JWs are the only ones who know how to cope with tragedy. What she says, in effect, is: "Unless one is a JW, they would kill themselves over this. But not me! I have a real hope." Do you Agree? Disagree? Here's the story:

    Road rage suspect sentenced to 120 days


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    Doug Mattson

    Still unsure of his role in a fatal crash nearly two years ago, a 62-year-old Nevada City man was sentenced Monday to 120 days in jail, with an option of home detention, and three years' probation.

    Bruce D. Kirkpatrick continues to suffer from head injuries and has no memory of the March 7, 2001, crash that killed 22-year-old Jesse Roberts of Grass Valley on Highway 20 near the Nevada County fairgrounds, according to a Nevada County Probation Department report.

    The sentence frustrated Roberts' family members, who thought the case justified a stiffer penalty.

    Early on, the California Highway Patrol characterized the crash as a case of road rage. Kirkpatrick and Raymond Herve became engaged in an anger fueled chase after Kirkpatrick cut off Herve on southbound Highway 49 at the Empire Street exit, according to the CHP.

    Investigators argued Herve later overtook Kirkpatrick on westbound Highway 20 and quickly braked, causing Kirkpatrick to lose control at roughly 90 mph and skid into the oncoming lane, killing Roberts. Roberts, a computer technician, was returning from helping a paralyzed Penn Valley woman with her computer.

    Herve was acquitted by a judge at trial, and Kirkpatrick's felony vehicular manslaughter charge was reduced to a misdemeanor in a plea bargain.

    A probation presentence report says Kirkpatrick has permanent memory loss and continues to suffer from a brain stem injury, a vertebrae fracture near his skull and pubic fractures.

    A doctor reported Kirkpatrick has "poor insight to his deficit ... (and) memory deficits continue to be a limiting factor to his thinking," according to the report.

    Questioned by the Probation Department, Kirkpatrick said he felt "terrible" about the crash. He initially claimed no responsibility for the crash but later said his speed and loss of control were factors in Roberts' death.

    Efforts to reach Kirkpatrick's lawyer, Dewey Harpainter, after sentencing were unsuccessful.

    Roberts' family, which had more than 20 supporters in court Monday, gained no solace from the sentencing. His father, Jim Roberts, said he didn't hate Kirkpatrick but hated missing his only son.

    Later, Roberts' mother, Laura, said her family members' faith as Jehovah's Witnesses - offering them the belief they will reunited with Jesse - has helped them cope.

    "If we didn't have that to look forward to, Jim and I wouldn't have survived this," she said. "I would have committed suicide. ... It's the Bible that has kept us going."

    http://www.theunion.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Site=TU&Date=20030114&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=101140041&Ref=AR

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    Damn, that's a shame. I see those type of cat and mouse crashes on route 287 here in Jersey all of the time.

    I feel bad for the mother....she'll be waiting a long time to see her son, since the JWs are a pipe dream. At least she won't kill herself, and hopefully will get some professional help to move her beyond the tragedy, and not rely on the emotionless roboto-elders to comfort her.

    ash

  • raistlin_majere
    raistlin_majere

    LoL

    "roboto-elders"

  • Gizmo
    Gizmo

    It's so sad when innocent people are killed or mamed, because of someone elses rage.

    I feel for the parents of the young man killed. And it is true, that hope in the ressurection can and does give people strength, and to me that's a good thing.

    But many people that don't hold that same hope find other ways of dealing with such tragedy, and wouldn't commit suicide, it was a very generalised statement the mother made, and one obviously based on her grief, maybe too she felt it was a good opportunity for a witness, and i'm sure her congo will express as much to her.

  • heathen
    heathen

    Edited cause I didn't read the initial post close enough and had the names confused.This place is making me cross eyed. ( hanging head in disbelief)

    Edited by - heathen on 15 January 2003 21:3:29

  • Xena
    Xena

    Heathen the two men with road rage ran into an innocent person on the other side of the highway.

    skid into the oncoming lane, killing Roberts

    . ..the man killed wasn't going 90 mph..or at least that we know of.

    I am glad she had something to sustain her thru her loss.

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    This is a sad story.

    When I was a witness I used to draw picture of the resurrection of my mother. I dreamed of it so clearly and it did comfort me. I truly believed I would see her on this earth again, and do the things we used to do together. That hope is gone now. It was a wonderful dream while it lasted, but I am glad that I am not blinded any more by JW lies, even the good ones that helped us thru trouble times.

    I thought this same thing several times in my life, if one of my children were to die, the only way I could make it would hope that armeggedon came before I lost my mind and then shortly thereafter I would touch them , be with them again on earth forever. I always knew losing my mom in the traggic way she died was hard to deal with but the death of my children would be more than I could bare alone.

    I can honestly say that of all the things I miss the most about my JW life......was that sense of hope, security of the resurrection. I can also say honestly since I have lost that hope, and my faith in any kind of afterlife, I don't know what will become of me if something happened to my kids. I would hope I could be strong, I could live for the ones alive, but I know it would be a hard life , a part of my heart and soul would be gone with the child. Just talking about it makes me nervous.I try not to dwell on the mysteries of what really is going to happen, if anything. I think this is why I am always so cautious, over protective of my kids,,,,,,,,,,, but anything can happen anytime.

  • Funchback
    Funchback

    LyinEyes-

    I am truly touched by your words.

  • TheOldHippie
    TheOldHippie

    With one child a drug addict, one down with cancer and childlessness, and one abused - I balance on a knife's edge, 24 hours a day, and echo your words, LyinEyes.

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Funchback,,,,,,, I was really afraid to write what I did,,,,,, I wasnt sure if anyone would understand what I meant. Somethings are hard to put in writing, and sometimes I often wonder if what I say,is better left unsaid. But I just had to remember how I used to feel as a JW and how I feel now. I often go thru the what if this or that happens in my head and put myself in someone eles's shoes,,,,, I just hope I really never have to walk in them.

    Old Hippie,,,,,,, I am so sorry you are going thru so much....... it hits kind of close to home, not for me or my kids , but a member of our family , drug addiciton. It just tears a parent apart to not be able to do anything to help a grown man, see he is destroying himself. You have really had some loses there,,,,,,, I wish you comfort even thou I can imagine there is no real comfort to give. Just know , others think about you and what you are going thru on this. I almost lost a baby , he was sick when he was born and for 3 yrs had several life and death ordeals due to chronic lung failure. He is 8 now and beyound all reasons, medical explanation, he lived to fight the world.....lol.....he is one hell of a little fighter. They knew this the day he had his first surgery,,,,,,he was 6 days old and two months premmature,,,,,,,,,,,,he managed to pull his respirator out,,,,,,,, guess he wanted to try and breathe on his own. The nurses told me he would make it, he was a damn strong baby for all he had been thru and would go thru......he seemed to show his will , his very nature from day 1. I hope the child of yours who has cancer,,,,,,,, keeps fighting , because I swear,,,, I have seen things change even when they say there is no hope. In fact that is how my son got his name Chance.

    I had the best doctors,,,,,, a specialist that has a jet to fly from one rare O B case to the next. Usually only the rare life and mostly death cases he attempts. He saw me and my son ,,,,,,thru ultrasound, and did all kinds of test,,,,,,, he said to get prepared this baby wouldnt live. He had to be honest with me...... he was so kind thou,,,,,he made sure that I had a private room, that no mother and baby would share a room with me,,,,,, since everyone knew that when the day came for me to deliver my baby wouldnt be with me . He thought me seeing a mother with her baby would be too painful. I asked him day after day,,,,,,, are things getting better , any good news, ,, he said no........ things are the same, but he said keep praying for a miracle,,,,,,,then he said....."there's not alot of hope but there's always a chance."

    So we named the baby , before he was even born,,,,,,,,the baby that would only live a few minutes.........Robert Chance.........

    Chance was the hospitals miracle baby, that is what they called him. There is always a chance, there is always hope, even if just a little and faith is a wonderful thing to have.

    God bless,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Dede

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