by LorenzoSmithXVII 180 Replies latest admin removed
You not done anything to an analysis. You've taken a few tidbits and string them together to match your pre-disposed notion while leaving planet sized holes in your ideas.
Pick something specific. Make your claims. Show your evidence connecting the dots.you've not done that at all. Please do so.
Viviane
History and archaeology do not support either of those as being consistent with the Biblical narrative of the exodus, Solomon or the fall of Jericho having happened as described in the Bible.
ROFL! My rose-colored glasses must be different than your dark shades. (smile)
I'm a Biblical expert and extremist, so I tend to interpret "evidence" in my own way. I certainly respect others who remain skeptical.
BTW, there is zero archeological gical proof the exodus ever happened (as you agreed in an earlier post), you your recent claim about archaeologists and the exodus is blatantly and laughably untrue.
This is just further actual proof that you have nobodea how science works, how to use critical thinking or logic. You've got a pre-disposed idea you want to be true and are grasping at anything you think will support it while not even realizing that you are undermining your own arguments from not understanding them.
Viviane8 minutes agoYou not done anything to an analysis. You've taken a few tidbits and string them together to match your pre-disposed notion while leaving planet sized holes in your ideas.
Pick something specific. Make your claims. Show your evidence connecting the dots.you've not done that at all. Please do so.
As usual, to avoid making a claim that could be addressed, you attempt to pretend your lack of ability and knowledge are really my problem. It's a typical and comical response from those that can't back up their claims.
Why am I not at all surprised that a man that made big claims about himself is now attempting to blame a woman when he can't perform?
Why am I not at all surprised that a man that made big claims about himself is now attempting to blame a woman when he can't perform?
Lol!
Viviane with the finishing move ftw
Viviane19 minutes agoBTW, there is zero archeological gical proof the exodus ever happened (as you agreed in an earlier post), you your recent claim about archaeologists and the exodus is blatantly and laughably untrue.
This is just further actual proof that you have nobodea how science works, how to use critical thinking or logic. You've got a pre-disposed idea you want to be true and are grasping at anything you think will support it while not even realizing that you are undermining your own arguments from not understanding them.
Um, I don't think you quite grasp what's going on here. This is a JW discussion board. JWs claim to believe the Bible as true history. The fall of Jericho was due to a "miracle." A miracle by definition defies natural laws, it is "SUPER-NATURAL." So I totally understand "science." But science is a limited tool, certainly limited to the abstract things, like art. So you're stuck on a scientific explanation for everything, but I'm not. But I don't really care if someone of a different viewpoint disagrees with me. I look at things from a spiritual point of view. Take for instance, the fall of Jericho!
Per the Bible, horns were blown just before the walls fell. That's an esoteric reading to let us know that sound waves were used to destroy the walls. The walls were thus said to "fall flat" on the ground, providing a level surface for the Israelites to enter the city. Now think in terms of what is FLAT? Flat is a sandy beach. Flat is now a lot of large stones from the wall lying around to stumble on and jump over. So the esoteric reading of this event is that God used sound waves to destroy the great stone walls of Jericho, but that also meant that the walls were disintegrated into sand-like consistency. Sand would fall to the ground and lie "flat."
When we look at this from a scientific point of view, we know that there is a medical procedure called ESWL (extra-corporeal shock wave lithotripsy). It is medical procedure where sound waves are used to demolish stones into small, sand-like particles. Those small particles can then be flushed out of the kidneys.
So from a biblicists point of view, we are seeing how God devised to deal with the great walls of Jericho. He decided to destroy the walls using sound waves. So he had the Israelites trek around the wall and blast their trumpets. The exaggerated sound waves were used to convert the great walls of Jericho into sand that fell flat around the city, allowing the Israelites to rush in on the city from all sides.
Now many years later, archaeologists come to Jericho and start digging and what do they find? They find absolutely no evidence of any walls at the LBA destructive level, in fact, that entire level is almost completely eroded away. Does that contradict the Bible. No. That level should have been sand, not stones. Yet you have archaeologists looking for great stones at this level and finding none, presume there was no real city at that level or that the Bible record is inaccurate or whatever. But because they don't understand scripture, that the walls were destroyed, they think their "science" is contradicting the Bible. But form my point of view, having a more accurate understanding of the Scriptures, I'm amazed that archaeology, indeed, discovered no stone wall at this level, consistent with the walls being destroyed and turned into sand.
Now, yes, that's a convoluted opinion from your point of view, but the scientific evidence doesn't contradict it. It may not confirm it, but it doesn't contradict it.
So. You do realize I think I'm much smarter than you, don't you? Did you get that yet/ I'm literally beside myself in self amazement here! hahahahaha! (I mean....) HAHAHAHA!
I'm totally incorrigible, Viv. I'm not recoverable when it comes to the Bible. But the fact is, I'm finding lots of archaeology that works out for me as far as the Bible history for the period from the Exodus to Shishak. It's just wonderful and amazing!
What are you going to do about Shishak, Viv? Your claim that not a single piece of archaeology supports anything in the Bible is just not true. But maybe you haven't been exposed to the references I have. That's why, you need to be specific `about what you claim against the Bible. For instance, before you start to claim there is no evidence of the Exodus found by archaeology, you have to date the Exodus where it is supposed to be, and then look at the specifics that might contradict the Bible.
Case in point, the claim the Exodus occurred during the time of Rameses II. No. The pharaoh of the Exodus has to rule less than 40 years to be consistent with the Bible. Rameses II ruled for 66 years. So in no way does the Bible support the Exodus at the end of the reign of Rameses II. But in the case of Amenhotep III, he did rule less than 40 years, which qualifies him as a candidate for pharaoh of the Exodus based on that.
Did you know Amenhotep III had a very specialized embalming process never before used nor used again? He is also the most poorly preserved mummy of them all. Hmmm? Well, this is someone who allegedly died in the Red Sea. Who knows when his body was recovered. But if his body was recovered late and he had a late embalming, that might explain the special processing. Even success with embalming today is to embalm immediately after death, the longer you wait, the poorer the results. His special embalming doesn't "prove" anything, but it doesn't contradict his being in the Red Sea a day or two either. See how that works? Cause of death wasn't by gunshot wound either. Though you can be assured if it was by gunshot would I'd be claiming he asked one of his warriors to kill him before drowning, once he saw it was pointless to fight against a powerful god like Yahweh.
Nah! Just teasing you. I know you're not in a position to know what I know, so whether you're sincere or not is never going to be the issue.
Viviane42 minutes agoYou're neither expert nor extremist. You're simply ignorant of science, logic, critical thinking and knowledge about the Bible.
Tiny, don't even think you have what it takes to understand, much less less be able to tell me what I am stuck on or understand.
What's going on is that you made a ton of claims. You were called on them. You can't perform despite your big claims and are now trying to blame me and gish gallop your way out of your shrinking abilities.
You're a joke.
