Short truth about 9/11, Truth hurts you know!

by Legendary U.2.K. 41 Replies latest jw friends

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Job 30:25: Didn't I weep for him who was in trouble? Wasn't my soul grieved for the needy?
Job 30:26: When I looked for good, then evil came; When I waited for light, there came darkness.
Job 30:27: My heart is troubled, and doesn't rest. Days of affliction have come on me.
Job 30:28: I go mourning without the sun. I stand up in the assembly, and cry for help.
Job 30:29: I am a brother to jackals, And a companion to ostriches.
Job 30:30: My skin grows black and peels from me. My bones are burned with heat.
Job 30:31: Therefore is my harp turned to mourning, And my pipe into the voice of those who weep.
James 4:9: Lament, mourn, and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to gloom.
James 4:10: Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will exalt you.
Below is when people will stop weeping and stop mourning:
Revelation 21:1: I saw a New Heaven and a New Earth: for the first Heaven and the first Earth have passed away, and the sea is no more.
Revelation 21:2: I saw the Holy City, New Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from God, made ready like a bride adorned for her husband.
Revelation 21:3: I heard a loud voice out of Heaven saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with people, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God.
Revelation 21:4: He will wipe away from them every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away."
Revelation 21:5: He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these Words of God are faithful and true."
Revelation 21:6: He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give freely to him who is thirsty from the spring of the Water of Life.
Revelation 21:7: He who overcomes, I will give him these things. I will be his God, and he will be My son.
Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 12 September 2002 0:16:7
Legendary U.2.K.

I have'nt read the whole koran, so i dont know about that love thy neighbor, enemies thing.. I read other things!
Legendary U.2.K.

And btw whosoever mention that they lost a friend in that attack, That's sad, but i know what i'm talking about tho, cause i lost close family couple years ago, somebody set their house on fire and they was in it,.. I cried, mourn, but got over it Quickly, infact too Quickly cause i understand that i will see them again... So it dont bother me no more,... Also you mention where was GOD? Well you keeping forgetting about John 9 verse 31, We suffer because of other people sin, lol you tell me how many people commit fornication and not repent? Hmmmm what else, We have people who practice magic, celebrate that christmas crap, birthday crap, we have lesbians, gays, porn business's, porn sites, False teachers = Evolution....Etc all kinds of bs, GOD was there, but if we ignore our creator, then'God will ignore us.....And that's not my views, that's the bible views..
Legendary U.2.K.

I'm just trying to help, Serious now i might sound BOLD when helping, lol that's cause i see how the world works, suckas aint paying attention... You got school right, No discussion about GOD No where and if a earthquake happen, It will be the same event like 9/11... In the old times this life was not like this, and one example was noah, noah was paying attention to reality, but people in this life time act like to obey God is a choice, but in reality, We are suppose to base our life 24/7 on GOD & THE BIBLE & KING PROPHET JESUS -(i cant find that chapter that backs up that statement, sorry, but it's there)
Edited by - Legendary U.2.K. on 12 September 2002 0:36:4
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Legendary U.2.K said:
We suffer because of other people sin, lol you tell me how many people commit fornication and not repent? Hmmmm what else, We have people who practice magic, celebrate that christmas crap, birthday crap, we have lesbians, gays, porn business's, porn sites, False teachers = Evolution....Etc all kinds of bs, GOD was there, but if we ignore our creator, then'God will ignore us....
Wicked acts you mentioned:
1. Fornication (I agree, definitely a sin)
2. Practicing Magic (I agree, definitely a sin)
3. Lesbians, Gays, Porn Businesses, Porn Sites (I agree, definitely a sin)
4. False teachers = Evolution (I agree)
5. Celebrating that "christmas crap, birthday crap"
How on EARTH could someone think that celebrating the Birth of our Lord is a SIN, let alone that it is as much of a sin as Fornication, Magic, Homosexual activity, Pornography, False Teachers, and Evolution???????!!!???!!??!
I agree that there has been some Catholic/Pagan influence on Christmas (like, I would say that Santa Claus doesn't really need to be involved with the Celebration at all), but to say that it is a SIN to Celebrate our Lord's Birth, I just don't know what to say.
THE HOLY ANGELS OF GOD AND THE SHEPHERDS CELEBRATING OUR LORD'S BIRTHDAY:
Here is a Scripture:
Luke 2:10: The angel said to them, "Don't be afraid, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be to all the people.
Luke 2:11: For there is born to you, this day, in the City of David, a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
Luke 2:12: This is the sign to you: you will find a Baby wrapped in strips of cloth, lying in a feeding trough."
Luke 2:13: Suddenly, there was with the angel a multitude of the Heavenly Host praising God, and saying,
Luke 2:14: "Glory to God in the highest, On Earth peace, good will toward men."
Luke 2:15: It happened, when the angels went away from them into the sky, that the shepherds said one to another, "Let's go to Bethlehem, now, and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has made known to us."
Luke 2:16: They came with haste, and found both Mary and Joseph, and the Baby was lying in the feeding trough.
Luke 2:17: When they saw the Baby, they publicized widely the saying which was spoken to them about this Child.
Luke 2:18: All who heard it wondered at the things which were spoken to them by the shepherds.
Luke 2:19: But Mary kept all these sayings, pondering them in her heart.
Luke 2:20: The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, just as it was told them.
Also, how in the world can you say that Christmas and Birthdays are a wicked sin, and yet, you don't even mention any of the following:
Murder
Abortion (which is Murder of Babies)
Child Molestation
Rape
Stealing
Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 12 September 2002 4:14:29
pseudoxristos

I have'nt read the whole koran, so i dont know about that love thy neighbor, enemies thing.. I read other things!

Koran (Muslim) Religious Document
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Righteousness is not that ye turn your faces towards the east or the
west, but righteousness is, one who believes in God, and the last day,
and the angels, and the Book, and the prophets, and who gives wealth
for His love to kindred, and orphans, and the poor, and the son of the
road, beggars, and those in captivity; and who is steadfast in prayer,
and gives alms; and those who are sure of their covenant when they make
a covenant; and the patient in poverty, and distress, and in time of
violence; these are they who are true, and these are those who fear.
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Koran (Muslim) Religious Document
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Thou wilt surely find that the strongest in enmity against those who
believe are the Jews and the idolaters; and thou wilt find the nearest
in love to those who believe to be those who say, 'We are Christians;'
that is because there are amongst them priests and monks, and because
they are not proud.
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Koran (Muslim) Religious Document
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IN the name of the merciful and compassionate God.
O ye who believe! take not my enemy and your enemy for patrons,
encountering them with love; for they misbelieve in the truth that is
to come to you; they drive out the Apostle and you for that ye believe
in God your Lord!
If ye go forth fighting strenuously in my cause and craving my good
pleasure, and secretly show love for them, yet do I know best what ye
conceal and what ye display! and he of you who does so has erred from
the level path.---------------------------------------------------------
Koran (Muslim) Religious Document
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They who fulfil their vows, and fear a day, the evil which shall fly
abroad, and who give food for His love to the poor and the orphan and
the captive. 'We only feed you for God's sake; we desire not from you
either reward or thanks; we fear from our Lord a frowning, calamitous
day!'
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Many of man's problems are caused by religion. The Koran, like the Bible has been used to teach love for your neighbor as well as death to your neighbor. Belief in an afterlife has the effect of causing many to put a lower value on this present life. If everyone would consider that this life is the only one that you get. Maybe they would have more respect for the life of their neighbor.
pseudo
Beck_Melbourne

I have'nt read the whole koran, so i dont know about that love thy neighbor, enemies thing.. I read other things!

You write like you haven't read anything at all. With all due respect, you may want to read "some more things man" and then post when you make some sense.
Beck
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pseudoxristos, Thank You for your Post. :-)
I find it hard to believe that people can read the Teachings of Love found in the Bible, and also those which you Posted from the Koran, that anyone read that and then commit acts so wicked (like 9/11) and believe that they are doing "God's Will".
Good point about living this life like it is the only life, HOWEVER, in the Bible, it is clearly obvious that people who DO NOT love their neighbor are NOT going to have ANY sort of Reward in the Afterlife.
Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 12 September 2002 1:13:44
pseudoxristos

Justification,
Ex 23:22
22 But if thou shalt indeed obey
his voice, and do all that I speak;
then I will be an enemy unto thine
enemies, and an adversary unto thine
adversaries.
23 For mine Angel shall go before
thee, and bring thee in unto the
Amorites, and the Hittites, and the
Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the
Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I
will cut them off.
De 32:42
42 I will make mine arrows drunk
with blood, and my sword shall
devour flesh; [and that] with the
blood of the slain and of the
captives, from the beginning of
revenges upon the enemy.
43 Rejoice, O ye nations, [with]
his people: for he will avenge the
blood of his servants, and will
render vengeance to his adversaries,
and will be merciful unto his land,
[and] to his people.
De 33:27
27 The eternal God [is thy]
refuge, and underneath [are] the
everlasting arms: and he shall
thrust out the enemy from before
thee; and shall say, Destroy [them].
Koran (Muslim) Religious Document
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Fight in God's way with those who fight with you, but transgress not;
verily, God loves not those who do transgress.
Kill them wherever ye find them, and drive them out from whence they
drive you out; for sedition is worse than slaughter; but fight them not
by the Sacred Mosque until they fight you there; then kill them, for
such is the recompense of those that misbelieve.
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Koran (Muslim) Religious Document
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Why are ye two parties about the hypocrites, when God hath overturned
them for what they earned? Do ye wish to guide those whom God hath led
astray? Whoso God hath led astray ye shall not surely find for him a
path. They would fain that ye misbelieve as they misbelieve, that ye
might be alike; take ye not patrons from among them until they too flee
in God's way; but if they turn their backs, then seize them and kill
them wheresoever ye find them, and take from them neither patron nor
help,- save those who reach a people betwixt whom and you is an
alliance- or who come to you while their bosoms prevent them from
fighting you or fighting their own people. But had God pleased He would
have given you dominion over them, and they would surely have fought
you. But if they retire from you and do not fight you, and offer you
peace,- then God hath given you no way against them.
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pseudo
added references to scriptures
Edited by - pseudoxristos on 12 September 2002 1:33:1
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pseudoxristos,
I should have said "New Testament" above instead of "The Bible".
Edited to add the following:
Also, in the Old Testament, it is my belief, from what I have read in the Bible so far, that God did the following (I could be wrong though):
1. Always warned the people/nations that He was going to destroy them if they did not repent.
2. That most of the time it was God Himself who destroyed the people/nations.
3. That when God did tell His people to destroy enemy nations, God always either used an angel or spoke directly to His people and told them what to do (which is definitely not the case now days).
4. The nations/people that God had destroyed were wicked and evil (I mean look at Sodom and Gomorrah)
Those are just my thoughts and beliefs.
Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 12 September 2002 4:47:47

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