Well, I have to say I am proud of you g-man. You made an entire post without saying doo doo or any bad initials. You almost made it without a personal insult, but not quite. Still, it is progress and this proves you are trainable. We will keep working on it until one day you will be able to make posts that even a normal person (as opposed to an evolutionary fundie who resorts to personal insults at the first sign of disagreement with their FAITH DOCTRINES) could be proud of. The key is forming a little mantra for yourself, I would suggest something like : "Other people are entitled to different views, Other people are entitled to different views" splice in "I won't call people stupid who disagree, I won't call people stupid who disagree, I won't call people stupid who disagree" or even the occasional "I am OK. I am OK." if you start feeling shaky about saying others can disagree. Say those for ten or fifteen minutes, breathe deep and post. Baby steps, baby steps to normalcy.
I liked the entire four corners area, loved Mesa Verde and the La Platas, really everything from Santa Fe north and over.
Grunt
Newway,
Thanks for all the work. I read every word. I admire your efforts however nothing you can say will disuade them. This is a emotional issue to them and like any other group of fundies if you disagree they take it personal. If you ask them what it would take to convince them that evolution is in error, they couldn't honestly tell you as their views are so fixed they can consider no other. They look only for flaws in YOUR reasoning as they consider their own beyond reproach.
Once again, thanks for your time, effort and honesty.
Grunt