We are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work

by oppostate 46 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Not to mention that it dovetails with the move towards becoming an e-religion.
  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The JWS these days seemed to be quite proud and arrogant that their religious organization (WTS.) is utilizing computer data proliferating in its preaching work (JWorg.), they take it as Jah's support in that no other religion is doing what they are doing... ie every Kingdom Hall or Assembly Hall now has a JWorg. sign posted at the front entrance.

    Jah's chariot is showing us to go electronic , of course the JWS don't really acknowledge that in doing so the WTS is saving a huge amount of money in printing costs.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    What Vidiot said, which is why the GB should hire me as their strategist. 😇

    Then again, they really don't need me to tell them that sheeple will swallow anything from the GB's collective maw. 💩

    I'm sure we will see a major shift in the "life-saving" work...soon. ( LOL! ) The WTBTS literally cannot afford to leave things as they are.

    DD 😈

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Finkelstein - "...they take it as Jah's support in that no other religion is doing what they are doing... i.e. every Kingdom Hall or Assembly Hall now has a JWorg sign posted at the front entrance."

    Well, it'd be pretty damn weird for other religions to put a "JWorg" sign on their churches ...

    x

    If they're simply talking about internet presence, though, then clearly, they are somewhat uninformed.

  • aintenoughwiskey
    aintenoughwiskey
    Let's face it, when you think D to D you don't think progressive up to speed org. You think fuller brush, vacuum sales. You can't be a slick new e-religion and sell encyclopedia Britannica door to door. Hey watchtower, 1955 is calling, they want their sales method back.
  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    The DtoD work was thought up by Rutherford, who, if memory serves, did not engage in it himself, to give the JW's a seemingly bigger presence than their very small numbers allowed in reality. The same with his marching outside Churches with placards, another work I doubt he personally took part in.

    The present move away from this will make JW's even more obscure and unseen than they already are, the Trolleys are not even noticed by most passers-by, telephone "witnessing" is not done much, hardly at all here in the U.K, and any Media coverage they get is always negative.

    They will soon be as hidden and unknown to the general populace as other strange cults, Rutherford must be spinning in his grave (wherever that may be), he certainly knew how to "Advertise, Advertise, Advertise", the present leaders seem hell bent on "hiding their light under a bushel".

  • oppostate
    oppostate
    Hey watchtower, 1955 is calling, they want their sales method back.

    Which is exactly the fashion the WTS wanted publishers to present. Good ol' pre-civil rights anglo society. Like in 1940's and 50's U.S. family movies where everyone is white and speaks with that half-brit half-yankee pronunciation and every family has a mom, dad, and 2.5 kids (you can substitute the .5 for a dog if you'd like), and all dad's work in a suit and change into a sweater and slippers like Mr. Rogers, and the mom's are homemakers, dressed in aprons and have flawless hair curls.

    Well, the average American Joe has a beer belly and doesn't own a suit, thinks all suits are G-men or sales people, and well, most U.S. women stand up for their rights and don't take kindly to chauvinists (except for scarf wearing, shariah keeping muslims and fundamentalist mormon women).

    Single parent homes are quite common now-a-days, the only gays you'll find in the closet, live at Bethel. And going down on your love mate is part of the fun of having a love mate. That's today's U.S. reality.

    The WT/JW Org can throw all the technology they want at rebranding their religion. But until they face up to the reality that the post-WWII fashions and mores are a thing of the past, they will continue to bleed out members and keep internet savvy prospective bible students from joining their cultish religion.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    then clearly, they are somewhat uninformed.

    Really the true mind set of every JWS , in reality many religious organization have their own published literature including the Catholics, Mormons, Scientology etc. and even they have down loadable articles and information on their own web sites as well.

    Of course the JWS will say " Well we thought of it first, because God has chosen us selectively "

  • sir82
    sir82

    what happens to the "publisher" status? I think that status will disappear, to be replaced with "baptized member".

    I don't buy it.

    Number of hours per month is THE primary, and in some cases, the SOLE, measurement for how "spiritual" someone is. And where you stand on the "spirituality" scale is EVERYTHING in Watchtower-world.

    Hours in field service is, bar none, absolutely, 100%, the FIRST and PRIMARY prerequisite for anyone being appointed as a ministerial servant or elder. In my experience, when someone is nominated as an MS/elder, the VERY FIRST question is INEVITABLY, "what are his hours?" If "hours" are too low, the nomination is quashed immediately.

    Eliminating the concept of a "publisher", and the handy numerical measuring rod of "hours", would so fundamentally change the nature of JWs that the organization would become unrecognizable.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    sir82: Number of hours per month is THE primary, and in some cases, the SOLE, measurement for how "spiritual" someone is. And where you stand on the "spirituality" scale is EVERYTHING in Watchtower-world.

    Sure. that is what you have been told. Hours in service=spirituality. However, hours in service actually means "tax free status". Membership in the JW religion has been defined by hours of service in order to meet the requirements of the taxman that the organization has a way of determining who is a member and to claim that the JWs do 'charity work'.

    What is far more important to the WT than "spirituality' is "tax free status". And right now, the WT is in a major overhaul in order to keep that status. The categories and requirements for each level of membership is being re-defined. And yes, these changes "would so fundamentally change the nature of JWs that the organization would become unrecognizable." How many times have you heard exactly that from posters on this forum?

    You can call it spirituality if you like...but...calling it that doesn't make it so.

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