WT officially admits their system is NOT PERFECT

Insider

Follow the link to WT official admission.

Second to last paragraph contains the admission.

http://www.jw-media.org/releases/default.htm?content=bg_molestation.htm

LDH

LOL. They refer to themselves as a "HUMAN ORGANIZATION."

Then why, I wonder, do they perpetrate the fraud to the rank and file that they are GOD'S ORGANIZATION????????

Lisa

Soledad

Nice. Just trying to cover their asses, pathetic fools.

"Our procedures have been refined over time. Over the years, as we have noted areas where our policies could be strengthened, we have followed through. We are continuing to refine them. We do not believe that our system is perfect. No human organization is perfect. But we do believe that we have a strong, Bible-based policy on child abuse."

How could their "policies" need refinement if they were bible-based policies? Are they stating that there is something wrong with the bible???

StinkyPantz

Everyone else probably feels as mad as I do after reading that crap! What happened to "theocratic organization" or "an organiztion directed by Jehovah"! What BS! They know that if they tried to put that up their the public would also be outraged. It just makes me SO mad!!!

StinkyP

"Keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer"

anglise

There they go lying again.
Here is just some proof from their own literature

*** km 4/97 4 Directing Students to the Organization Behind Our Name ***
8 The brochure Jehovah’s Witnesses—Unitedly Doing God’s Will Worldwide is a fine tool that has been produced to acquaint individuals with the only visible organization Jehovah is using today to accomplish his will..

*** km 4/96 5 Theocratic Ministry School Review ***
10. Jehovah’s Witnesses see unmistakable evidence that the organization to which they belong is not of men but of God and that God’s own Son, Jesus Christ, is directing it. [jv p. 235 par. 5] True

*** km 6/96 5 How to Make Disciples With the Knowledge Book ***
15 The brochure Jehovah’s Witnesses—Unitedly Doing God’s Will Worldwide has been produced to acquaint individuals with the only visible organization Jehovah is using today to accomplish his will

*** km 3/95 3-4 Bethel Service-More Volunteers Needed ***
 In the early 1920’s, during morning worship, a member of the Society’s editorial staff used the expression “God’s organization.” This so stimulated their thinking that by 1925 the brothers had come to see that there are two distinct and opposing organizations, Jehovah’s and Satan’s.—w85 3/15 p. 10.

refiners fire

Oh!
Theres been a FOULUP!
See i know theres been a FOULUP, because thats the ONLY time the organization "reminds" the brothers that the org isnt perfect.

Obviously then, the rest of the time, the org is content to let the
brothers believe it is perfect yes?
Why is that??

Makena1

Is this the first time they admit that the organization has made mistakes and not pinned the blame on "some brothers" or "some of the friends"?

From a thread started by LDH: How do you reconcile this with the JR's comment on the Dateline piece that our of the 77000 plus elders some do not follow the rules?

Lack of consistency and more double standards? My head is spinning!?

LOL

Mak

Some men worship rank, some worship heroes, some worship power, some worship God, & over these ideals they dispute & cannot unite--but they all worship money.
- Mark Twain

Wren

Great future Watchtower study question: What organization are we a loyal subject of? God's or man's?

Answer: Human!

They are tripping over their shoelaces, the spin was supposed to be human imperfection not human organization. Thanks for the admission.

JT

Position on Child Molestation
Child abuse is abhorrent to us. This is in harmony with the principle recorded at Romans 12:9. Even one abused child is one too many. For decades The Watchtower and Awake! have featured articles to educate both Witnesses and the public regarding the importance and need to protect children from child abuse. Among others, there was the article "Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked!" published in the January 1, 1997, issue of The Watchtower ; "Help for the Victims of Incest" in the October 1, 1983, Watchtower; "Your Child Is in Danger!", "How Can We Protect Our Children?", and "Prevention in the Home", all in the October 8, 1993, Awake!, as well as "Child Molesting—Every Mother's Nightmare" in the January 22, 1985, Awake!

When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with the elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time. Why not? As a Bible-based organization, we must adhere to what the Scriptures say, namely, "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin . . . at the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15) Jesus reaffirmed this principle as recorded at Matthew 18:15-17. However, if two persons are witnesses to separate incidents of the same kind of wrongdoing, their testimony may be deemed sufficient to take action.

However, even if the elders cannot take congregational action, they are expected to report the allegation to the branch office of Jehovah's Witnesses in their country, if local privacy laws permit. In addition to making a report to the branch office, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, we expect the elders to comply. Additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so.

If, when confronted, the accused confesses that he is guilty of child abuse, the elders take appropriate congregational action. If he is not repentant, he will not be permitted to remain a member of the congregation. Even if he is repentant—is cut to the heart and is thus resolutely determined to avoid such conduct in the future—what was stated in the January 1, 1997, issue of The Watchtower applies. The article said: "For the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation. Moreover, he cannot be a pioneer [full-time missionary of Jehovah's Witnesses] or serve in any other special, full-time service." He would not qualify Scripturally. (1 Timothy 3:2, 7-10) We take such action because we are concerned with maintaining Bible standards and protecting our children. Everyone in our organization is expected to meet the same requirements, namely, to be clean physically, mentally, morally, and spiritually.—2 Corinthians 7:1; Ephesians 4:17-19; 1 Thessalonians 2:4.

In a few instances, individuals guilty of an act of child abuse have been appointed to positions within the congregation if their conduct has been otherwise exemplary for decades. All of the factors are considered carefully. Suppose, for example, that a long time ago a 16-year-old boy had sexual relations with a consenting 15-year-old girl. Depending upon the U.S. jurisdiction where he lived when this happened, elders may have been required to report this as an incident of child abuse. Let us say that 20 years have passed. The child abuse reporting law may have changed; the man may have even married the girl! Both have been living exemplary lives and they are respected. In such a rare case, the man could possibly be appointed to a responsible position within the congregation.

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don't you love the example they try to use, while laws may differ in most folks minds on a case of a 16yr old boy and a 14 year of girl

when most folks think of child molestation they have a clear imagine of a dirty of 5yr old man trying to get his penis in a 6 or 7 yr old girl.

why didn't the wt use that as the example i will bet my house that 95% or more of the cases in wt involve clearly mature adults 30-40-50 yr old men and girls 12 and under

wt marches out this strawman case of the 2 hot horny single teens but made sure they stayed away from bro johnson who is 47 married with 3kids and the little 10 old child he was trying to have sex with.

try all they want to folks saw clearly the old guy - who interesting while i hate what he did NO MENTION AND I REPEAT NO MENTION WAS Made of getting the guy some help

while it has been stated by many that there is no real treatment for this sickness AT LEAST SOME ATTEMPT should be made to get the guy treatment

yet the wt has stated KNOWN PEDOPILES GO DOOR TO DOOR

yet nowhere on thier site or in jr browns comments are there any mention of getting this guy professional help

the only help wt gives is

1, no be around little girls

2. always be active in service and never work alone

3, read all your mags each month

4, attend all of our (sales) meetings

that is the extent of help that a pedophile will get from and elder who is following the instructions of the WT