David Splane Destroys the Very Foundation of 1914- Corp. Meeting New Light

by scotoma 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • scotoma
    scotoma

    At the Corporate meeting David Splane discusses the use and misuse of Types/Antitypes.

    The main qualifier of a type is that an account must be represented IN THE SCRIPTURES as a
    type of some future event.

    He quoted Schroeder who said if an account isn’t explained in the scriptures as a “type” than you
    shouldn’t use the event as a type.

    Splane summed up his talk by saying “If the Bible is silent - we must be silent”.

    But they go right on celebrating the 100 years from 1914 which was determined by improperly
    going beyond anything written in the Bible about Nebuchadnezzar’s Tree Dream.

    The Bible specifically refers to the immense tree as representing Nebuchadnezzar. Nothing more.

    Daniel explained it and that should be the end of the matter.

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown

    Wow, really.

    I would say that the type/antitype horse bolted years ago,

    except for the fact that they never had that horse under control to begin with.

  • sloppyjoe2
    sloppyjoe2

    I remember some very boring watchtower studies about types and antitypes and jubilees and all that craziness. All those wasted studies I could have been playing as a kid and they just got rid of it anyway. As far as 1914 which has been discussed here repeatedly. 1914 isn't going anywhere at least till after 2034. Even then they can wait a decade or two since JWs don't even know what type/antitype is to begin with.

  • prologos
    prologos

    D. Splane was perhaps setting the tone for future WT work, less dwelling into bible contradictions, but generating their own ideas, Overlapping groups in one anointeds only generations, All properties held in common (by Wt affilates) really.

    D. Splane always struck us as someone ready to launch forth into further flights of fancy, or on a tangent.

  • Muddy Waters
    Muddy Waters

    Oh gawd.... If Dave-id Splane is or becomes the new "oracle" of JW-land, those poor R & F are in for a horror show.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Its not surprising that the WTS. would try and wiggle their way out of 1914 if not now certainly in the near future.

    Idiots !

    .

    Do you think they would just simply use Jesus's own words on how mankind shouldn't speculate on setting dates like he admonished clearly

    in the bible ?

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    Ok, let's try and get it straight: the guys that are the figure-heads of this organization, the 7 GB members, are completely clueless and haven't had an original thought between them in their entire lives.

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Yes Oub, their "original collective thought" is to keep making stuff up as they go along!

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Nothing but a huge game of Dungeons and Dragons.

  • Ocean1111
    Ocean1111

    Yes good point, I was thinking lately how this is all inter-relating to their "Gog" "new light" as well.

    I think the overall objective of the "Annual Meeting" is twofold. 1. Don't check prophecy for details, and 2. Setting up the JW perception for the coming global "attack" scenario on the Bethel corporations to align Bethel's next hoax " King North" with " Gog of Magog" as the same assumed entity. Though they only alluded to it as a question, the question is posed for JWs to start to make the connection prior to final revelation of "who" is attacking the Bethel corporations globally. They are finalizing their diversion, imo.

    It is an adjusted smokescreen that now aligns another prophecy, the "Gog of Magog" prophecy that JWs are primed to expect, also way too prematurely in "Gog of Magog", now connected to their classic " USSR" is " King North" error "loose end". Thus they are setting up the perception and merging two JW prophetic premature expectations into one entity, and to JWs misled by this, that is amping up the final scenario hoax potential. As a speculation, that could be revisited with Russia as the center of a new national bloc system "bogey man", and the value of the hoax will be complete in a deep way in that connection to the USSR error already fully ironed into the JW brain.

    How ever they play off "King North+Gog" in time, as seems to be the intent, it will be a diversion from who is really deconstructing the Bethel system, aided by Bethel's own "self fulfilling prophecy" to create the heavy smokescreen for the full operation, and it will also aid the exit plan of the Bethel billions to go as smoothly as possible.

    Then to finish the agenda the Annual Meeting they basically said overall:

    1. We are NOT the "evil slave", because there is no "evil slave" after all everyone!

    (This is because Bethel is an "evil slave" principle in action)

    2. Do not use types to try to reveal the Bethel apostasy!

    3. Do not look too deeply into prophecy or parables for deeper or repeating principle meanings.

    (and those are because the repeating principle of Bethel and its leadership corruption is all over prophecy and parables, thus a second JW lobotomy is being required)

    Obviously all those things inter-relate because Bethel's classic apostasy is in the principles, and the Devil is in the details, and they just want to keep the trap as well camouflaged prior to the real "game day" they are preparing JWs for: The end of the Bethel corporate system, sold to JWs as "the end of the world", that is the basic setup at work at Bethel, imo.

    Thus the world system continues on, JWs are derailed, the ministry is ruined and called off, and JWs will be left with a riddle for some years, because it never was "the end of the world", it was the end of the Bethel apostasy that opened the door for corporate takeover under the veneer of a "model JW" act that was easy to assume internally and in the top leadership in the GB, the shadow board, and the WTS (as well as throughout the whole hierarchy, factionally, down into the congregations).

    These are just some final plausible denials and "smooth word" rationale (Dan11:32a) to keep asleep JWs off the real trail, a lullaby from Bethel. There is too much design into the whole override since 1990, and 1976 in the GB coup, to just be random hypocrisy.

    Thus expect more soon on the "Gog" and fake "King North" final JW decoy period, and into that period, imo, is when Bethel's actual takeover will go full bore for a couple years, but that will be sold to JWs as the overall "the end", and JWs will be in actually a hoax to cover the coup that has been developing since 1976 and the GB "experiment", merely completing the real mission.

    That is my speculation on the overall objective of this last Annual Meeting operation of more and more error and the reinforcing of positioned JW delusions that will aid the process of corporate dissolution that is coming, with that handy delusion applied to becoming a JW hoax.

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