Please,I need non-"apostate" info./sites for my exit case on following topics

by Kensho 18 Replies latest social entertainment

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  QuitWastingTIME

  That's a tough one. Because the honest truth is that even if there are legitimate articles out there, like the one in The Guardian, once they do their own Google search the first things that'll pop on their screen will be apostate websites that quote the article. And so right there they will assume they you would only have ever come to your decision by visiting apostate websites and that, well intentioned as it may have been, your mind is now poisoned.

  I suppose you COULD say that you originally read the article from its direct source because a family member sent it to you before the apostate sites got hold of it, and that it's been bugging you forever.
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  DesirousOfChange

  The greatest source of "eye-opening" information I had was a Return Visit. I believe he was genuinely interested when I initially began calling on him in service. But he spent some time researching Jehovah's Witnesses online. Well, you now where that took him.

  Back then there was the one pro-JW site called Watchtower.org and everything else were sites exposing JWs (probably freeminds and jwfacts etc). I took questions and information that he provided to me to other JW elders/friends, most of whom said to quit calling on him because he was obviously "apostate". (How could someone never affiliated be apostate?) I thought he had legitimate questions that I thought I should be able to "give a reply".
  

  I think eventually he decided HE needed to save ME. He definitely planted many of the seeds that later took root. But like is often said here, a person cannot be forced to learn TTATT until they are ready to take that step for themselves. Thanks to my cognitive dissonance, those seeds laid dormant about 10 years with me. But I wonder too, how many others that I discussed his questions with also had some seeds planted in them?

  Doc
  
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  wifibandit

  
  

  • Babylon fell 539 B.C.E

    "Babylon fell in 539 B.C." Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184
    "October 5, 539 B.C.E. (Gregorian calendar), when Babylon fell before the invading Medo-Persian armies under the command of Cyrus the Great." - it-1 236 Babylon, History

  • Plus Nabonidus, 17 years

    "On the basis of cuneiform texts he is believed to have ruled some seventeen years(556-539 B.C.E.)." it-2 p. 457 Nabonidus

  • Plus Labashi-Marduk, 1 year

    "Labashi-Marduk ... was a vicious boy, and within nine months he had his throat cut by an assassin." Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184 "Labashi-Marduk, a vicious boy, succeeded him, and was assassinated within nine months." w65 1/1 p. 29

  • Plus Neriglissar, 4 years

    "Neriglissar ... reigned four years" Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184

  • Plus Evil-Merodach, 2 years

    "After reigning but two years King Evil-Merodach was murdered" Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184

  • Plus Nebuchadnezzar, 43 years

    "Nebuchadnezzar ruled as king for 43 years" Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2 p.480

  • Equals start of Nebuchadnezzar's reign,Calculated by adding above figures = 606 B.C.

  • Minus Nebuchadnezzar's 19th year

    2 Kings 25:8-9 "And in the ... nineteenth year of King Neb·u·chad·nez´zar ... the servant of the king of Babylon, came to Jerusalem. And he proceeded to burn the house of Jehovah"

  539+17+1+4+2+43 -19=587

  Date for Destruction of Jerusalem = 587 B.C.
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  Giordano

  There are plenty of news sources on the JW Pedophile issue just stay with that....... you can not be blamed for saying that that has stumbled you and your going to wait and see if the WTBTS changes it's policy and then walk away. Keep your family contacts alive that way....forget about long term friends as they will probably find you 'inconvenient'
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  Kensho

  Do not do this!

  They already know that they are a fraud in every regard you could mention. They have been fully aware of this for the last 130 years. They bring in about one billion dollars annually by perpetrating the same frauds on the same captive group of ignorant Jdubbies.

  The Mormons learned to do it right in 1989, following the example of Norman Hancock, whose 18 million dollar lawsuit actually changed Mormon church policy the same year. ( isn't that really our goal too?)

  Please search and read Leaving the Mormon Church How to get out by Richard Packham

  You have actual legal rights in regard to religious freedoms - learn them! use them!!
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  Simon

  If you voice any opinion that contradicts that of the current WTS (even if it's what they used to believe the day before or chose to believe the following day) then you are classed as an apostate.

  It doesn't matter what the source or how factually accurate the information is - if it discredits them in any way or shows up the WTS to be wrong then they are conditioned to reject it.
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  millie210

  Two independent articles that shocked me 1) This one is about how the witnesses have built 2 soccer fields, one baseball field and a football field for a town they want to build in and since they dont pay taxes, the town is frantic about having them come. The town wants to sue but doesn't have the deep pockets to do so. So if JW children are not supposed to participate in these sports - or adults either. Why is building the fields ok? And isnt football too "violent" for Christians"? Arent we not supposed to even support such violence by attending? But building it to get your own way is ok if you are the Society? link to article from newspaper

  http://www.recordonline.com/article/20150307/NEWS/150309486

  
  

  2) Biood Issue-

  There is now a letter of understanding (LOE) that parents can use to avert the blood issue with a child. This is being used in Canada and was recently used locally (U.S.) as recommended by the Liaison Committee. Other places in other states here in the U.S., parents HAVE NOT been told about this. They are left to battle it out with the Drs and face the loss of their child. Not only does this show the blood stance to be a waffling one, it also shows an appalling lack of unity. Parents everywhere should be told about something so important shouldn't they? Or is the life of children individually not that important to the Society? Either the blood issue isnt that big of a deal or unity isnt - which?

  http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/12/20/without-fanfare-jehovahs-witnesses-quietly-soften-position-on-blood-transfusions/

  more information on this at the thread here on this site

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/156630001/watchtowers-deception-regarding-blood-transfusions
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  gone for good

  Kensho -

  Please search on this site for the topic entitled

  '' Important to put in your letter of DA'' posted by Roberta804
  

  a thread about a successful DA letter, posted by the woman who wrote it
  
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  jwleaks

  You can download documents HERE from many court cases.