"Necessary" these wars and conflicts always have a necessary component to them, mostly humanitarian.
21 countries selling arms into the ISIS conflict, business, as they say, is booming.
The High Cost Of War
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metatron
It is disgusting to observe what could be a race between Hillary and Jeb - as if the US has degenerated into a 3rd world country like Argentina.
I am fascinated by what Russia and China are doing with displacing the US dollar - which is very strong now. Even Allan Greenspan isn't sure if they have some long term strategy going on.
Putin gave a wonderful speech recently in which he decried the results of US intervention and called for a multipolar world.
I do think that the cost of US militarism has become unsustainable and that may be a good thing.
metatron
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Coded Logic
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
-Edmund Burke
ISIS is helll bent on enacting a worldwide Caliphate. They have committed mass executions dozens of times and posted the vidoes online to brag about it, they have decapitated tens of thousands of men and children and displayed their heads on spikes in EVERY SINGLE city they control, they have raped women by the thousands and sold hundreds as sex slaves, and they force people to convert to Islam or die.
ISIS is a group that will exceed the horror of the Nazi's if we but do nothing.
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Gregor
No surprise - war is costly in blood and treasure.
But in this world what are the options?
Defend yourself or become a victim of aggressors.
Has the US been after loot? Where's the oil, land and other resources that could have been confiscated?
Colonial Great Britain cannot make the same claim.
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kaik
Even Romans had figured in the past that prolonged conflicts drain treasury and many times the objective of the war was not met. Rome abandoned a conquest of Germania due extensive cost associated with uncertain payback. Extensive military spending bankrupts countries even without war. USSR is one of the example.
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DJS
Like most of you, I believe the war machine can’t lead to anything positive long term, and the military/industrial complex is out of control. I also wish the US would spend more time making peace and less making war. If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Otherwise, more dumbass ramblings about the amazing Russian economic strategy deserves pummeled. Western sanctions have had a dramatic effect on the Russian economy, as I said they would months ago. Putin’s ‘wonderful’ speech (Met, your desire to see the West annihilated colors your views - please try to avoid the keyboard in these matters) is empty impotent rhetoric (after spending time alone in the forest licking his wounds and knowing that there isn’t really a damn thing he can do about it, except whine. Do you think for one freaking minute Met that, if Vlad had the power to bring the West to their economic knees he wouldn’t use it?).
His 'wonderful' speech (sounds like you got yourself a bromance going on with Vlad) is nothing but whining because his peacockian show of saber rattling pretty tanks all in a row was met by a much stronger force – one that didn’t need to fire the first shot. The combined economic strength of the West, which dwarves Russian capabilities, may be used as a hegemon, but Vlad started it.
Met, dear god man, why can’t you stay away from topics you know nothing about other than your expertise in surfing confirmation biased articles and statements? And name dropping Alan Greenspan does not, I repeat does not, give your dumbass rants any more credibility. Let’s see, what could Vlad’s sta-ge-ty be??? What could it be?
Perhaps this one:
Portions of Russian savers’ pension funds have been appropriated by the state to prop up the country's companies.
Or this one:
The ruble is down 20 percent since the beginning of the year. Russia’s central bank has spent billions to slow the ruble’s decline. Investors pulled almost $75 billion out of the country in the first six months of the year alone.
Or this one:
The recent arrest of oligarch Yevtushenkov (likely based on his refusal to give up his stake in a profitable oil company, Bashneftt, which Putin is considering making state owned. And the word on the street is the Yev was one of the good guys), isn’t helping Russia’s business climate. Now ALL the oligarchs and oligarch wannabes are scared.
Or this one:
Over fifty percent of Russian government funding is from oil/gas revenues, and 70 percent of exports of same. The reliance on exports, and specifically one sector, places the Soviet economy squarely in a boom or bust cycle largely hostage to demand/price. Not exactly the type of economic sta-ge-ty which can make the ruble the world's dime of choice.
Or this one (vewwy scawwy):
Some of Putin’s hawkish security advisers (former KGB) have spoken of putting the needs of the state before the needs of businesses and individuals. This would help them marshal the resources necessary for a confrontation with the West. (Beware of the dark side, Luke). Back, back to the future! Lash me to the post, it's the siren's song (wasn't the Cold War and all of our glory juss wunnerful??).
Or this one:
"Although there has been an increase in Russian air activity over Europe during the past year, last week marked the first time Moscow had sent in larger formations of warplanes, General Philip Breedlove told reporters."
"My opinion is they're messaging us. They're messaging us that they are a great power," Breedlove said.
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designs
100 prominent Israelis, many with military and spy credentials, have urged Netanyaho and company to accept the Saudi Resolution and make Peace with the Palestinians. Netanyaho won't of course but think of the Billions of dollars that could be allocated to positive things like education, housing, infrastructure, health care, business development, farming.
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kaik
DJS, you wasting your time, these people will never change, they will admire their holy Russia even when is waste deep in the mud. I knew these people from communist years, and they believe that there is a huge paradise in northern Asia since 1917 and USA (and decandent West-Democratic world) is on the verge of bankruptcy to be swept by Stalin, A.H, Mao, Putin, Saddam....
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designs
The loss of lives in Russia during WWII was hard to fathom, something like 22,000,000.
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prologos
It was the push-back against their [Russia's] earlier agression against Finland, the Baltic states, Ukraine, Poland, and their declaired goal of making the World a Russian dominated worker's paradise'
suppose Nazi Germany would not have been the buffer state, at what point would have Churchill declared war on Russia as it advanced into Poland in the 30?
All the European people payed a high price for the wars that were fought on their soil by empire builders/ defenders.
It is the empires. the Reichs, now
the 100 year invisible rule, prelude to the millenium, a high price to pay too.