A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

by Terry 49 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Bonnie_Clyde
    Bonnie_Clyde

    Publisher increase for 1974: 13.5%!!

    Publisher increase for 1975: 9.7%!!

    Publisher increase for 1976: 3.7%!!

    Publisher decrease for 1977: -1%!!

    Publisher decrease for 1978: -1.4%!!

    The most significant growth in the history of Jehovahs Witnesses took place in the runup years to 1975. To all you lurking Witnesses and apologists: Do you really think that such growth was accomplished by 'a few over zealous' publishers that 'read too much into the 1975 date'?

    Thanks Sparky - I remember it wasn't until 1979 that the WT very casually admitted that they were just a teeny bit responsible for the 1975 fiasco--since their numbers were starting to go negative.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    "Life Everlasting in the Freedumb of sons of God" printed a chronological chart (p36 I think) saying that in 2975 the end of Christ's millennium would happen. Tying this in with other statements in the book, it became impossible to dismiss 1975 as mere speculation, even though they admittedly never said Armageddon will come that year. They never siad Armageddon will come in 1914, but they did say the battle of Armageddon will end in 1914 - with all that implies.

    Words like - evidently, apparently, logically, reasonably, appropriate are all cues for the gofors to swallow the particular piece of crap the Slave excretes..

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    A hilarious example of WT self-contradiction:

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    "Following 1925, meeting attendance dropped dramatically in some congregations...

    Again, in 1975, there was disappointment when expectations regarding the start of the Millennium failed to materialize. Again, some withdrew from the organization." --- Proclaimers (Jv), p.633 [emphasis added]

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    "This organization has NEVER disappointed us and always gives us an abundance of pure water of truth from God´s Word". --- W 7-15-2011

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

    This statment by the WTS well after 1975 shows their own appeal to lie in an effort to cover and white wash previously propagated lies by past

    WTS. leaders. From one out poring of spiritual food to the next.

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    In this endeavor the WTS truly self identifies itself as a commercialized false prophet.

  • DwainBowman
    DwainBowman

    Ri was around for all the hype, leading up to 75, it was NEVER a few overzealous jw's jumping the gun! It all came from on high. F. Franz came to a special event in Alabama, around 74, he spoke very frankly about the excitement building at bethel, and with friends from around the world, reports were coming in, of so many turning there hands to the pioneer service, and that those in school, should also turn to that never to be repeated work, that was rushing to keep up with the kingdom!

    At the urging of the co, and elders, I and so many quit school, and set out to pioneer!

    Dwain

  • sparky1
    sparky1

    Me too Dwain..............quit school in 1972, pioneered and went to Bethel in 1974. The hoopla and circus around 1975 was built up at every meeting, circuit assembly, district assemby, field service meeting and private gathering . It came from the top down and was NOT the private interpretation of a few over zealous brothers.

  • Old Goat
    Old Goat

    One of my children wasn't supposed to start kindergarten because Moses was in the wilderness for 40 years and 40 years from 1914 was about to run out. It was a widely spread speculation among Witnesses. It's a form of insanity, I think.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    To think Bro. F Franz the leading bible theologian for the WTS/JWS pulled this false imposable calculation of 6000 years from an old article that the WTS.

    published more 60 years previously. Now hows that for some good old fashion indulgent corruption ?

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Well, of course the original miscalculation as to when 6,000 years of man's existence ended was god's fault, not WT's. WT was using a "flawed" King James Bible...the Bible being God's Word, which He apparently didn't correct for his chosen true religion:

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    ***Salvation book chap.16 p.287 par.12***

    According to an inaccurate chronology that had been worked out from the King James Authorized Version Bible, Russell calculated that Christ’s "presence" had begun in the year 1874 C.E., *

    unseen to human eyes and seen only by the eye of faith. This was why, when he began publishing a new religious magazine in defense of the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ, Russell entitled it "Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence." *

    * if Russell was the Faithful Slave, wouldn't God or Jesus have informed him the KJ was wrong before allowing Russell to teach the wrong date for Jesus' return for over 50 years? Or, did God not know that the KJ Bible was wrong and, therefore, didn't know any more than Russell and couldn't correct him?

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    ***w74 8/15 pp.506-507***

    In 1877, Russell joined Nelson H. Barbour in publishing the book Three Worlds, and the Harvest of This World. It indicated that the end of the Gentile Times in 1914 would be preceded by a forty-year period to open with a three-and-a-half-year harvest beginning in 1874 C.E. According to Bible chronology thereafter adopted, it was understood that 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth ended in 1872, whereas six millenniums of human sin concluded and the seventh millennium began in 1874. Christ’s presence was thought to have begun in October 1874, at the start of the great antitypical Jubilee.—Lev. chap. 25; Rev. 20:4.

    "According to trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man’s creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E." —Life Everlasting – In Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, p. 29

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Good catch AndDontCallMeShirley

    The statement According to trustworthy Bible chronology

    Thats a prodigious lie in itself for its imposable to make that claim since accurate chronological record of people births and deaths were not documented in ancient times.

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    Real bible theologians know that but the pretentious commercialized Watchtower is not particularly intellectually honest, they postured their doctrines on previous

    false doctrines of their predecessors.

    The bible is an assortment of prodigious lies in the domain of ancient mythological expression and so are the men who are intensionally propagating them commercially today.

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