Why are 'most' of the people fighting in the Middle East MEN???

by NAVYTOWN 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • kaik

    Generally, every revolution is driven by men. They are biggest risk takers and are the most willing to sacrifice. Men are also the most unhappy with no win situation. Revolutions in the 1960's or 1989 were also driven by young population and students. If you look into the history of the French Revolution, you will see that most of the sacrifice was done by men who were between 20 and 30. Younger people are also the most easy to manipulate by the elderly for their goals. This was done by Stalin and Hitler, but can be seen in other revolutions. However, revolutions generally get explosive when women get involved, because women want to see better future for their children. Women's march on Versailles in 1789 imprisoned king Louis XVI and from that point onward he was just bystander of the changes. Russian revolution in 1917 was also driven by left-wing feminists who wanted achiving suffrage within new system.

  • Vidiot

    Navytown - "Why are 'most' of the people fighting in the Middle East MEN???"

    'Cause it's Middle Eastern MEN (particularly ones who wanna take the Middle East back to the Middle Ages) who stand the most to gain by winning.

    Same reason as any other war.

  • jam

    When I graduated from bootcamp I was ready to charge an

    enemy machine gun nest, I was 18 years old. Trooper

    take that hill, yes sir. A woman, please tell me again the

    purpose of charging that hill with bullets flying over our heads...

    Young men are easy to train, while the older guys sit back and

    give orders...Have you ever heard of a suicide bomber in his 40's

    or older....

  • New Worldly Translation
    New Worldly Translation

    Look at any nature documentary, who is fighting? Males.

  • NotNew

    For many generations of men in the USA they wanted to protect loved ones and homeland...yes that included all gender. Men with thought prosess in check will protect women, wives, children... all their loved ones with their lives. Thats not being aggressive it's being responsive...protective Of those less likely to ward off the aggressor.

    ***Re: Why are 'most' of the people fighting in the Middle East MEN??

    This region breeds hate...read the bible it will give some insight as to why...they are motivated by a different set of outcomes.

    ***Another feature of the Bedouin ethos is the law of blood revenge. A much quoted Arab proverb is, “Blood demands blood.” Relatives must avenge the blood of the slain by killing either the actual murderer or one of his relatives. Even when a murderer is apprehended, convicted in a court of law, and executed, it does not fulfill the requirements of blood revenge. One of the relatives of the executed man must die by the hand of one of the victim’s relatives. And, of course, the murdered relative’s blood must be avenged by his relatives. Thus it continues ad infinitum. An Arab man once remarked that “both the Japanese and the Arabs are ready to kill to regain their lost honor; but the Japanese will kill himself, while the Arab will kill somebody else” (cited in ibid ., p. 212).

    Maybe men are expendable?


  • fulltimestudent


    Another feature of the Bedouin ethos is the law of blood revenge. A much quoted Arab proverb is, “Blood demands blood.” Relatives must avenge the blood of the slain by killing either the actual murderer or one of his relatives.

    It comes from the Bible, or, should I say that the ancient Israelites also had this crazy law. Kill someone, even if accidently, and one of his relatives had the right to kill YOU. The person with the right to kill was called the blood avenger. You can read about it in Numbers 35:19

    The avenger of blood shall put the murderer to death; when the avenger comes upon the murderer, the avenger shall put the murderer to death. (NIV)

    We had this wonderfully crazy series of WT study articles once (I think you could see Freddies mind behind it) on this topic. In Numbers, six cities were set up as "cities of refuge," to which the accidental man-slayer could flee and be safe from the blood avenger.

    So Yup! you guessed it, there's a modern day city of refuge, and I can safely say that if you are HERE (grin) you are NOT in the city of refuge.

  • stuckinarut2

    Also, in that part of the world, the average age of the population is under 30! and most are male...

    So the ratio of young males fighting is a natural reflection of that...

    Also there is a case of Peer pressure to conform and be a part of it if you are a young hot blooded male....

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    It's ok to blame Men (who do most of the heavy lifting) for all the worlds problems but if you asked why it has always been men that have made most of the Scientific discoveries and Modern inventions that have benefited the world, you'd likely be considered a sexist.

    Men bad....women good.

    If you are wondering about Womens role in Historical Violence you can't forget:

    Catherine the Great, Queen Mary (bloody Mary), Queen Issabella of Spain ,Margaret Thatcher, Maria Theresa of Austria, Empress Elisabeth
    Queen Tamara of Georgia
    Joan of Arc
    Queen Elizabeth I
    Eleanor of Aquitaine
    Wu Zetian
    Irene of Athens
    Trung Sisters
    Empress Matilda
    Ana de Sousa Nzinga Mbande
    Raziyya Iltutmish
    Hind al-Hunud
    Khawlah Bint al-Kindiyyah

  • JWdaughter

    Doesn't matter which nation or group is fighting, the vast majority of the fighters are men. In any country. Every culture.

    FYI, one of my friends from Pakistan recently moved here and married.She was a captain and had full authority over men. And she told me that it was respected and no one treated her with any disrespect. Military law was NOT messed with. She is now married to a man from here and is a homemaker, she is absolutely a stunningly gorgeous woman and this, her only marriage, happened when she was just over 30. Don't generalize too much about miitary service (or about women in the ME for that matter)

    Women are "allowed" out of the home in the ME. I lived there for years.

    Women can go out of the house without men-and they do. I traveled all over the ME alone many times and was safe-and I always knew that if I needed help, I knew I would get it for the asking. I stayed in hotels and apartments alone, shopped alone and did business with service providers and accepted deliveries, hired drivers, enrolled in classes.

    There are a lot more people in the M.E. who are victimized by the wars and battles,they aren't the causes of it, they are stuck there. Where do you think those in Gaza or Israel are going to 'escape' to? You only need a few people to start trouble in any place and they can drag everyone right along with them-most of the folks you see are just trying to survive being born into a situation that they have no escape from, no matter what their feelings about any issue. Its a tiny country. No one gets out of it unscathed.

    When war lands in your yard, are you all going to just accept your home and livihood to be taken from you, bit by bit? Or bomb by bomb? Forget the politics, if we were invaded by Russia or China, we wouldn't care much who was a democrat or republican, liberal or conservative.

    Sorry, got OT. My husband is listening to the news right now about Palestine/Israel and Im a little upset for all the families (Israeli, too) who are being harmed by this whole situation since 20 years before I was born. No end in sight. Stupid.

  • BucketShopBill

    I fear they are not going to stick with Christians, they will attack everyone who is not willing to convert to their religion. Look what George Bush and George Bush Jr did for all the Christians living in the Middle East. Fundamental Christians have preached the merits of George W. Bush but he is in league with the men in Saudi Arabia who want to kill off Freedom to Beleive or Not Believe. I understand why Atheist get angry wtih Theist who are so dumb that can't see the truth.


    id is distributed to Iraqi Christians who fled to Hamdaniya, east of Mosul Continue reading the main story

    Struggle for Iraq

    The French government says it is ready to offer asylum to Iraqi Christians forced to flee by Islamist militants in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.

    Many fled Mosul after the Islamic State (IS) group which seized much of northern Iraq told them to convert to Islam, pay a tax or face death.

    Iraq is home to one of the world's most ancient Christian communities.

    Two top ministers said, "We are ready, if they so desire, to help facilitate asylum on our territory."

    It was a joint message from Laurent Fabius and Bernard Cazeneuve, respectively foreign minister and interior minister in the Socialist government.

    A senior Christian cleric in Iraq, Patriarch Louis Sako, estimated that before the advance of IS, Mosul had a Christian community of 35,000 - compared with 60,000 prior to 2003.

    According to the UN, just 20 families from the ancient Christian minority now remain in the city, which Isis has taken as the capital of its Islamic state.

    Islamic State was previously known as Isis (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant).

    On Saturday, France's far right opposition party the National Front organised a rally in Paris in support of Iraqi Christians."


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