Where has the WTS said God Lives?

by blondie 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • blondie

    Does God dwell outside the universe or inside?

    Jehovah lives in Pleiades star cluster galaxy...Star Trek anyone?

    1927 "The face of the deep, of course, would be toward the Pleiades, which are claimed to be the habitation of Jehovah." (Creation; 1927; 2,175,000 ed.; p. 94)

    1928 "The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleiades appears to be the crowning center around which the known systems of the planets revolve even as our sun's planets obey the sun and travel in their respective orbits. It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling-place of Jehovah and the place of the highest heavens;..." (Reconciliation; 1928; p. 14)

    1928 "The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man. But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared with the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God." (Reconciliation; 1928; p. 14)

    or OUTSIDE the universe?

    *** it-1 p. 1060 Heaven ***

    Spiritual Heavens. The same original-language words used for the physical heavens are also applied to the spiritual heavens. As has been seen, Jehovah God does not reside in the physical heavens, being a Spirit.

    *** g 4/11 p. 29 Is God Omnipresent? ***

    Clearly, the Bible can help us to get better acquainted with our Creator. In it we learn that God lives in an established place called heaven, a spirit realm outside the physical heavens. With him, there are myriads of mighty spirit creatures who also reside in the spirit realm.

  • designs

    1914 Brighten Beach Road...

  • blondie

    That must be heaven then

  • prologos

    Since, according to some, 'God is dead', where he LIVES might be the wrong question for them.

    WTBTS? latest, newest bound book reference, page 612 of the grey bible. 18."-- the heavens can not CONTAIN you--"

    any self respecting creator would make sure that he is bigger than the universe, at least at it's inception, plank size.

    where would that place be? the same place as the beginning, that we can kind of see, all around us in all directions, far away, beyond the beginning.

    a place that is not moving through time.

  • OnTheWayOut

    so the spiritual and not physical place that Jehovah resides is physically located in the Pleiades system.

    That should be perfectly clear to everyone.

  • sparrowdown

    Maybe God wears a T-shirt that says Neitzche is dead.

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    Pointless metaphysical speculation. "God" is absolutely irrelevant to humanity's day to day lives since "it" shows no evidence whatsoever of caring or intervening in human suffering. The Buddha realised this and taught this 2,500 years ago.

  • blondie

    Not pointless if you jw loved ones are ignorant of what the WTS teaches...hang them with their own words not just dismissing it as pointless.

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    What is your point here Blondie? That you have provided it's a false religion and saved some ignorant JW by producing three quotes of some 80 or so years apart that appear to contradict each other on some obscure wild metaphysical speculation? What a very clever cutter and paster of Watchtower quotes you are.


    Some physicists now speculate that there are a great number of Universes contained in the 'Multiverse'. And, who knows, the Multiverse might itself be a small part of an even larger system. So speculating on the 'location' of 'God' would seem to be a pointless exercise. In my view, what people refer to as 'God' is the sum total of EVERYTHING that exists, and everything that DOESN'T exist. The JW view of 'Jehovah' is a very limited, anthropomorphic concept. And I'm sure a lot of Christians, JWs included, think of 'Heaven' as a real 'place' where they will be living after they die. And of course JWs believe that millions will live 'forever' on 'Paradise Earth'. Try to imagine exactly how long 'forever' would be, compared to the age of our Universe.

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