Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban

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  • opusdei1972

    Some days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.
    This time she prepared notes containing Watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.
    For instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of Awake, September 8). However, she remarked that now it is permitted. Also, in 1975 "clotting factors" were banned for hemophiliac witnesses (see Awake, February 22, 1975), but three years later, in 1978, these "clotting factors" were permitted. So my sister asked them: what about those brothers who died while those blood fractions were banned?. So, the elders told her that the light gets brighter for Jehovah's people. And about those who died for those changes, they said that Jehovah let his people die in His Holy Wars (during the days of the ancient Israel), so we shouldn't be surprised for that. Of course, she disagreed, then she asked: why can't we donate blood if some fractions coming from worldly donors are permitted?. The elders quoted the following verse:

    "You shall not eat anything that dies of itself; you may give it to aliens residing in your towns for them to eat, or you may sell it to a foreigner. For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. "(Deut 14:21)

    So, the elders told that according to the above verse, witnesses, as people of God, can accept some blood fractions donated from worldly people, but they can't donate because witnesses have to respect the sacredness of blood. Again, my sister told them that we are not under the Law of Moses, but they replied that some principles remain.

    Then my sister talked about other shocking issues, but they reminded her that she accepted the Organization, as spirit-directed, in one of the questions of her baptism, so she replied that she was baptized in 1975, not after 1985 when the formula of the baptism changed.

    Well, now I want to give my comment. Do you note how lovely and just is the God of the Watchtower? I am impressed. This God lets babies die in hospitals on account of His blood ban, because He did the same with both israelite and pagan babies in His Holy Wars. This God forbids to donate blood but He lets witnesses to use some blood fractions which come from pagan donors. So, this God is biased and unjust, and the elders are very happy for that !!.

    In the past I regarded Marcion of Sinope, as an apostate. However, currently, I am understanding why he did what he did. How dangerous is the Bible when we regard every word in it as the word of God !.

  • jgnat

    Orthodox Jews work around the prohibitions through the employ of Shabbos Goy.


  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    The JW theology regarding blood transfusions is a mess. The elders give a horrible answer because the ban is indefensible.

    Their prohibition is based on a few cherry-picked verses regarding eatting blood of dead animals (transfused blood comes from live human donors and isn't "eaten" like a PBJ sandwich) and a statement in Acts (which Paul discredited a few years later).

  • opusdei1972

    Yes, "The elders give a horrible answer", but they used the Old Testament to justify these absurdities. So, they are not shocked if a babie have to die for the Watchtower theology, because people have to die for the teachings of the slave of Jehovah, no matter how wrong this slave is. This is what the Old Testament teaches: violence in the name of God. These elders are following these paranoic advices:

    the direction that you receive from Jehovah’s organization may seem strange or unusual. But all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether we agree with them or not, because obeying these instructions will save our lives.(w13 11/15, "Seven Shepherds, Eight Dukes—What They Mean for Us Today", paragraph 17)

    Althought I am noticing that this paragraph has changed (that was not its original version), this still shows that Witnesses would have to kill if the instructions of the Governing Body were of such kind. This is very dangerous.

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Billy said it best: 'The JW theology regarding blood transfusions is a mess.'

    The emphasis is on... 'a mess'!

    It has literally been years (4 years & some change to be exact) since WT has scheduled a part on the Service Meeting about filling out a Power Of Attorney.

    Like clock work, every year about January JWs would have a part in the Kingdom Ministry entitled something along the lines ...'Are You Ready For An Emergency?' or 'Are You Putting it Off?'

    And I swear to God it's been well over four years since there has been anything on the subject during the Service Meeting.

    Billy the Ex-Bethelite might be onto something.

    I wonder if WT realizes that their blood transfusion theology is sooo messed up that they are currently working on something or working on some way of breaking the bad news to the JW public.

    Something is just not right....WT has been too silent on the subject for too long!

  • Crazyguy

    She should of asked them then what was the point in Jesus sacrifice and all his teachings if we still have to live under the mosaic law???

  • opusdei1972

    I don't know how these elders got those arguments, may be by personal study or may be they asked the CO, but I am sure that, currently, the Society would not publish these stupid arguments in favor to the blood ban. Although, who knows??

  • opusdei1972

    Good point Crazyguy, ....the elders told her that may be they will visit her the next sunday. May be to anounce her that she will be disfellowshipped for apostasy. Who knows?

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    There was a time when WT would have a new video, pamphlet, brochure, article in one of magazines or something in the Kingdom Ministry on the subject of 'Bloodless Management' or 'Bloodless Surgeries' and how more and more doctors and hospitals were getting on board and favoring JW's thinking on the subject.

    But of late there has been zero, nada, zilch, nothing on the subject!

    Could it be that WT is in a pickle with this doctrine?

    How about it, WT Writing Department personnel.....can anyone fill us in?

  • opusdei1972

    May be the Society has received many questions about why a fraction is permitted but other is banned, and the GB can't explain it by any logical argument. So they decided to keep quite.

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