Did the GB ever receive new light without the passage of time forcing it upon them?

by Zoos 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    "Likewise it is possible to spend valuable time speculating on matters concerning the future. One might ask, In what year will Armageddon begin?...Jehovah has not provided answers at this time. Do you think it wise for Christians to take time from more profitable Bible study to speculate on the answers? Consider the dangers...involves more than saving time. It may save your life...Personal theories can cause division of thought..By setting up hypothetical situations and then speculating..are we not in fact adding to Jehovahs words?..We cannot worship Jehovah in spirit and in truth if our worship is based on speculation. Truth and theory are not synonymous. "

    LOL!!!! HAHAHAHAHhH!!!!!!!!!!! DIVISION OF THOUGHT!!!! LOL!!!! HAHHAAHAHHHH!!! Heheh!!! HA!!! The dogma of the WTBTS is all speculation. One must accept the speculation of Stephen Lett ( Hale Bopper) and A Morris III ( Burntdog Mc Shell-shock) to a "true Christian" and to gain life.

    DD

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    The bible says NOTHING about tobacco or any use of any plant, except that God made leaves for the healing of the nations. Even though I do not smoke, the Bible says NOTHNG about tobacco!!! NOTHING!!!! Any prohibition against ANYTHING not DIRECTLY mentioned in the scrolls that the Council of Nicea chose to call the Bible, is going beyond the things written!!

    Oh wait! That's why we need human religious gurus to interpret the ancient scrolls for us!! Praise Jeehoober!!!!

    DD

  • Old Goat
    Old Goat

    DD

    It was a change of view. Yes it was a flip flop, a return with slight changes to the Russell era interpretation. But it was presented as "new light."

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    gotcha.

    DD

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    The courts or lawsuits or just the plain goofiness of WT's blood doctrine will soon force the GB to shed new light on this nonsense of a teaching!

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    The courts or lawsuits or just the plain goofiness of WT's blood doctrine will soon force the GB to shed new light on this nonsense of a teaching!

  • Darth Fader The Sequel
    Darth Fader The Sequel

    Excellent thread. This topic, more than any other, is what tells me that the GB/F&DS/WTBT$ is generally full of crap. If you applied this scenario to almost any other relationship (a doctor, a field guide, a lawyer, a car mechanic, a building contractor) where people rely on "experts" to provide advice, direction and service to them and those "experts" had the abysmal record of predicting, flip-flopping, "new light", totally screwing up, over-charging, etc that the GB/F&DS/WTBT$ does you would run away from them screaming with your hair on fire. Not so much because humans are imperfect and make mistakes, but because you were ASSURED beyond any doubt that this person or entity was the "expert" and insists that he has never been wrong about anything. The audacity and hubris and hypocrisy is stinking ripe in all of this.

    But when you really boil this all down...... I blame myself/ourselves (the adults, not the kids). We are so good at ignoring reality and living in fantasy. Some more than others but we all do it. The only reason the GB/F&DS/WTBT$ has any money or power at all is because *we* gave it to them. The same applies to governments. The same applies to civil authorities. The same applies to an attacker. *WE* give them that power. We hand over our fear to people so that they can manipulate and mold it as they see fit for their best interests. Most people would trade their harsh reality for comforting lies and fantasy. It is partly due to laziness. It is partly due to people trying to fill a void in their personality or character or life. So many people yearn to be a part of something bigger than themselves for the false sense of security that gives them. You can see this easily in other cults, environmental causes, political parties, social sub-cultures and on and on. This is a human being flaw, plain and simple.

    Our only saving grace is that I believe Jehovah knows these flaws in us and accepts the fact that "man dominates man to his own injury". Why He has not intervened yet and done something to fix mankind...... I have no clue. To me, it feels like enough time has passed to prove whatever point needs to be made. Enough suffering. Enough abuse. Enough of charlatans using God's name to use people for their own aggrandizement.

    I swear on my eyeballs, the next person I hear spewing off some re-tread "new light" and telling me they know "the truth", I am going to make them swallow some of their own teeth. Cannot take it anymore.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The WTS has had long history of making bold proclamations such as the return of Christ and a new Dispensational era predistine by god by devising and calculating dates on their own .

    What the real intent was to attract attention to the organization's literature and solidify these doctrines dogmatically.

    Why would the leaders of this organization play with or be intellectual honest from a theological viewpoint when these doctrines did so much to proliferate

    the organization's literature ?

    The END TIMES doctrine was also useful toward inciting people to spread the literature as a viable service to god and as a means to create their own personal salvation.

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    There is so much adverse commercialism contained in the Watchtower Corporation that people simply look over.

    I think it comes from the plausible fear and the believing respect that the bible transcends from people's consciousness.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The WTS. had to have some formulated gimmick to attract people to the organization, one could easily

    say they were disingenuously false doctrines but in reality they were the right doctrines for the organization

    from a building structural viewpoint, taken on by a religious publishing house.

  • smiddy
    smiddy

    Absolutely not .their new light has always followed failed prophecys, expectations that. Never eventuateD .smiddy

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