When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school....
Order in the universe
by Rattigan350 34 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Viviane
* the night-marish thought occured to me, if the sun has a yet undetected distant companion star, and it woudl come closer in 4 billion years, our sun could slowly replenish its hydrogen and keep the earth green, perpetuate the wt-controlled paradise nightmare. glad its just a dream.
That's now how it works.
that was the ORDER of the day then.
It's also how it works now.
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prologos
culled from Scientific american:
" --Gas from another galaxy is absorbed by the outer regions of our galaxy, -- ADDING FRESH LUSTER to the Milky way--" so,
not only do stars "vampire-suck-off" their companions to aquire super-nova capable mass, but galaxies scavenge, scoop up material too, to shine brighter and longer.
the cosmic order:
eat to become stronger.
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Viviane
" --Gas from another galaxy is absorbed by the outer regions of our galaxy, -- ADDING FRESH LUSTER to the Milky way--" so,
not only do stars "vampire-suck-off" their companions to aquire super-nova capable mass, but galaxies scavenge, scoop up material too, to shine brighter and longer.
Your quote was about about shining gas in galaxies, NOT about one star consuming another. This is why you REALLY REALLY need a basic science education. You're completely mixing up concepts.
Also, you were talking a star replenishing itself, not acquiring super-nova mass (which, BTW, is also NOT related to galaxies). Another reason you need a good basic sceince education. Making clear statements is key if you want be understood or listened to.
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snare&racket
prologos, no offence but it is sounding a bit silly now. Go grab a astrophysics textbook..... or shhhhh lol
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Cold Steel
The Universe has handed us plenty of surprises over the past century and has kept book publishers busy correcting things astrophysicists thought they knew, but had to rethink. This isn't bad in the least, but it shows just how incredible it all is. Whether there is a God or not, what's out there is incredible, and we haven't even scratched the surface of what we think we know. There could be as many universes as there are galaxies, or even stars. Where does one draw the line?
If we do acknowlege that there is a God, it would be the height of narrow-mindedness to think that we're God's first creation, or the last. Christians and Jews who believe in a God of limitless power are faced with the question of why it would take God six "days" (or unspecified "eras" of time) to create this world when, otherwise, He could just speak it into existence. For that matter, why could He not speak the entire cosmos into existence with but a word?
The scriptures suggest that God created this world out of pre-existing materials, not ex niliho, as the churchmen concluded in the Fourth Century. The question, regardless, is why creation? If there is no God, no creator, then why does this all exist? Saying that matter has always existed is as problematic as saying that God has always existed. Matter cannot come into being, nor can it be sustained, without energy. And energy doesn't just happen spontaneously. And if there is a God, why would He create angels, worlds, man, plants and animals, and books? Why would He have no peers, a single, self-existent Being?
Then there are the paradoxes. Eternity----> Present <----Eternity. Even arguing the absence of time as we understand it, God would have had to be alone for a very long period of time before He acted to create. What was He doing during all that time? Here's a Being of matchless power, glory and intelligence, and He's the only one of His Kind and has existed for an eternity without creating a thing.
In Genesis, however, the Hebrew term Elohim is used, which denotes a uniplurality. Thus, we have phrases such as, "Let us make man in ourimage, after our likeness," and, "Man has become one of us, knowing good and evil." Thus it's entirely possible that the creation of this earth was carried out by others under the oversight of God. Modern scholars refer to this as a heavenly council, references of which are found in many ancient Hebrew accounts and also the book of Job. According to many of these, this is when Lucifer and his hosts rebelled and were cast down to the earth.
However the Universe was formed, we can't be certain it's the only one. And if there is no God, it was a magnificent occurrance.
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prologos
vivian, even if what you say applies. If, as Scientific Amercan wrote " -- will add LUSTER to the Mlky Way--, it would be LUSTER in what shines in the MILKY way?, what is it? STARS, NOVAE, or the gases they iluminate, but STARS that shine.
Stars lusting after Luster? gobble some extra-galactic gas.
Twinkle ,twinkle little STAR, remember?
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prologos
Cold steel enjoyed reading that. my thoughts on the God in eternal time question?
When thinking about time, I arrive at the the idea of UR time, not Uhrzeit but an primordial time, ETERNAL, a 'GIVEN' that always was. and
God, whatever the concept, did not MOVE in it, as we do.
We think of time as a SEQUENCE but that is MOVEMENT through time that started with the beginning of our unverse, even BEFORE the big bang as some now propose. so:
If time did not pass, creation would be a pas-time.
FUN.
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cofty
If there is no God, no creator, then why does this all exist?
Silly question.
Matter cannot come into being, nor can it be sustained, without energy. And energy doesn't just happen spontaneously.
The total amount of energy in the unverse is zero
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prologos
just asking: both sides of an equation balance out to zero, but there is there not value on both sides? adding up now , but aslo cancelling out at the end?