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Letting JESUS refute the Watch Tower blood policies
by Terry 33 Replies latest watchtower medical
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Terry
Pastor Russell brought Clayton J Woodworth into his fold and Woodworth served as an editor and writer of articles.
Clayton J. Woodworth served as editor of The Golden Age and its successor Consolation (published from October 6, 1937, through July 31, 1946, inclusive). Because of advancing years, he was relieved of this work when the new journal Awake! replaced Consolation, with the issue of August 22, 1946..
The nature of Woodworth and the focus of his articles was never less than controversy, speculation and crackpot zeal for the bizarre.
The arrest of the leaders of the Watch Tower Society during WWI was partly a direct result of outrageous statements made by Clayton J Woodworth ghost-writing THE FINISHED MYSTERY under the name of C.T.Russell! H e spent nine months in prison in 1918-19.
Here are some examples of the incredible wrong-headed lies, distortions, and foolhardy articles appearing in the Society's publications of a period of many decades:
"Vaccination never prevented anything and never will, and is the most barbarous practice...We are in the last days; and the devil is slowly losing his hold, making a strenuous effort meanwhile to do all the damage he can, and to his credit can such evils be placed. ... Use your rights as American citizens to forever abolish the devilish practice of vaccinations." Golden Age 1921 Oct 12 p.17
"Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows the seed of syphilis, cancers, escema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccination is a crime, an outrage and a delusion." Golden Age 1929 May 1 p.502
"Avoid serum inoculations and vaccinations as they pollute the blood stream with their filthy pus." Golden Age 1929 Nov 13 pp.106-107
"The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself... And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out." Watchtower 1952 Dec 15 p.764
"Beginning in 1961 any who ignored the divine requirement, accepted blood transfusions, and manifested an unrepentant attitude were disfellowshipped from the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom pp.183-184
"The blood in any person is in reality the person himself. ... poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits ... The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood. Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes - these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion." Watchtower Sep 15 1961 p.564
"A peculiar factor sometimes noted is a so-called 'personality transplant.' That is, the recipient in some cases has seemed to adopt certain personality factors of the person from whom the organ came." Watchtower 1975 Sep 1 p.519
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JW's blood policy results in a form of human sacrifice, they have policies that protect paedophiles, and they reject Christ's blood at their annual memorial. All traits of Satanism.
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Finkelstein
"The blood in any person is in reality the person himself. ... poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits ... The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood. Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes - these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion." Watchtower Sep 15 1961 p.564
Good grief
What causative detrimental results of listening to ignorant men who portray themselves as intellectual divined power.
Good work on this Terry
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cha ching
(Luke 6:4) How he entered into the house of God and received the loaves of presentation and ate and gave some to the men with him, which it is lawful for no one to eat but for the priests only?”
7 The scribes and the Pharisees were now watching him closely to see whether he would cure on the sabbath, in order to find some way to accuse him. 8 He, however, knew their reasonings, yet he said to the man with the withered hand: “Get up and stand in the center.” And he rose and took his stand. 9 Then Jesus said to them: “I ask YOU men, Is it lawful on the sabbath to do good or to do injury, to save or to destroy a soul?” 10 And after looking around at them all, he said to the man: “Stretch out your hand.” He did so, and his hand was restored. 11 But they became filled with madness, and they began to talk over with one another what they might do to Jesus.
*** w02 8/15 pp. 11-12 pars. 9-10 “I Set the Pattern for You” ***
9 When Jesus was challenged by religious opponents, he did not engage them in a duel of wits, although he could easily have outdone them in such a contest. Rather, he let God’s Word refute them. Recall, for instance, when the Pharisees charged that Jesus’ followers had violated the Sabbath law by plucking a few heads of grain in a field and eating them while passing through. Jesus replied: “Have you not read what David did when he and the men with him got hungry?” (Matthew 12:1-5) Of course, those self-righteous men may well have read that inspired account recorded at 1 Samuel 21:1-6. If so, they had failed to discern an important lesson that it contained. Jesus, however, had done more than read the account. He had thought about it and taken its message to heart. He loved the principles that Jehovah taught by means of that passage. So he used that account, as well as an example from the Mosaic Law, to reveal the balanced spirit of the Law. Similarly, Jesus’ loyal love moved him to defend God’s Word against the efforts of religious leaders to twist it to their own ends or bury it under a morass of human traditions.
10 Jesus’ love of his subject would never allow him to teach merely by rote, in a manner that was tired or mechanical. ..
Have you ever heard the style of commenting "Watchtower, '0' '2' 8/15, page 11 & 12, paragraph 9?
Have we "failed to discern the important lesson?" Life is more precious than listening to "religiuos leaders" who "twist it to their own ends or bury it under a morass of traditions."
Remember, the WT use to say that it was "cannabalistic" to take an organ transplant...
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Bobcat
The following is from the NAC-Acts commentary (John B. Polhill, p.330-31). So as to fill out the discussion of this thread and give a little background to the development of the "Western Text" tradition:
When looked at closely, all four of these [decrees of Acts 15:19, 20] belong to the ritual sphere. Meat offered to idols was an abomination to Jews, who avoided any and everything associated with idolatry. "Strangled meat" referred to animals that had been slaughtered in a manner that left the blood in it. Blood was considered sacred to the Jews , and all meat was to be drained of blood before consuming it. The prohibition of "blood" came under the same requirement, referring to the consumption of the blood of animals in any form. These three requirements were all ritual, dealing with matters of clean and unclean foods. The fourth catagory seems somewhat less ritual and more moral: sexual immorality (porneia). It is possible that this catagory was also originally intended in a mainly ritual sense, referring to those "defiling" sexual relationships the Old Testament condemns, such as incest, marriage outside the covenant community, marriage with a close relative, bestiality, homosexuality, and the like. It is also possible that a broader meaning was intended including all illicit "natural" relationships as well, such as fornication, concubinage, and adultery. Gentile sexual mores were lax compared to Jewish standards, and it was one of the areas where Jews saw themselves most radically differentiated from Gentiles. The boundary between ritual and ethical law is not always distinct, and sexual morality is one of those areas where it is most blurred. For the Jew sexual misbehavior was both immoral and impure. A Jew would find it difficult indeed to consort with a Gentile who did not live by his own standards of sexual morality.
The four requirements [of Acts 15:19, 20] suggested by James were thus all basically ritual requirements aimed at making fellowship possible between Jewish and Gentile Christians. Often referred to as "the apostolic decrees," they belonged to a period in the life of the church when there was close contact between Jewish and Gentile Christians, when table fellowship especially was common between them. In a later day, by the end of the first century, Jewish Christianity became isolated into small sects and separated from Gentile Christianity. There no longer existed any real fellowship between them. The original function of the decrees no longer had any force, and they tended to be viewed in wholly moral terms. This tendency is very much reflected in the textual tradition of Acts 15:20, 29 and 21:25, particularly in the Western text, which omits "strangled meat," adds the negative form of the golden rule, and reads "idolatry" rather than idol meat. There are thus four moral prohibitions: no idolatry, no sexual immorality, no murder ("blood" now viewed as the shedding - not consuming - of blood), and "do not do to another what you wouldn't wish done to yourself."[End quote. Material in "[ ]" is Bobcat's for clarity.]
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civicsi00
Terry, I started a topic about this very scripture 6 years ago. I tried to reason with my in-laws that Jesus would have allowed blood transfusions. My sis-in-law was going into the hospital and knew she was going to need blood to survive her operation. Here it is:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/150895/1/Blood-question#.UyCVFPldVZs
This was at a time when I was coming to learn TTATT. This was a dark time for our families...
My sis-in-law didn't make it. My father-in-law is now OUT of the Watchtower and was deeply saddened when he realized he probably could've saved her life (the Power of Attorney was under his control).
No matter how much you try to REASON with a JW, they are so mind-locked with how the GB has interpreted the scriptures that JW's will just NOT see it.
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Terry
I watched a documentary on Netflix about North Korea and the worship of the leader as a divine being.
It turned my stomach and reminded me of what is happening to the seven million Jehovah's Witnesses around the world.
Unquestioning loyalty, absolute certainty and a total blackout on outside information leads to the eradication of individuality.
Once a willing dupe commits their life and and dedicates it to SERVING . . .the door closes on rational thinking.
The cowardice of their acts of "integrity" is sickening. It is nothing short of child-sacrifice.
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sir82
"The blood in any person is in reality the person himself. ... poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits ... The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood. Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes - these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion." Watchtower Sep 15 1961 p.564
Wait - surely that is a typo?
That has to be a statement made in 1861, doesn't it?
I mean, no one in their right mind, as recently as 50 years ago, thought "poisons in the blood" were the cause of murder & theft, did they?
Oh wait - that was a Fred Franz jewel. I did say "right mind", didn't I? Never mind.
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DATA-DOG
"The blood in any person is in reality the person himself. ... poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits ... The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood. Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes - these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion." Watchtower Sep 15 1961 p.564"
Great post as usual.
WOW, just WOW.... What complete idiots. There must be some younger JW insiders pulling the strings now. The whole desperate re-branding of the WTBTS is way too smart for the old-timers. A family member of mine just went to Gilead graduation. What was the highlight?? Seeing the GB speak, of course. Why?? They are sweet old men. Gerrits hair is so cute. Peirce seems like such a sweet old grandpa. This push to potray the GB in a more public and favorable light, the push to re-brand THEM as selling points is deliberate.
The cult of personality is going to carry the WTBTS for some time, IMO. I think it's a diabolically brilliant plan to divert attention from the moronic dogma of the past and present. People without their own moral center are easily swayed by personalities. I bet some young JW think tank said, " You guys are wrecking the ORG. If it is to survive, we need to make some changes."
DD
