Powerful and Damning Awake quote, and questions to help JWs think....

by BU2B 21 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • billythekid46
    billythekid46

    You might be confused on what Luke 21:8 states. If you believe the JW are false, then how do you account for the rest of the false religions, such as Catholics, Born again Christians, Morons, Judaist, Islam, ETC, and ETC? That would make all religions the false prophet. When the Apostles asked when the end time would be, and Jesus replied only the father knows, he did however leave some clues as to when end times was closely approaching. Remember Jesus was proclaiming the End of Days in His time. Before that, God’s prophets were proclaiming of a coming Messiah, which was fore filled. So then, to true Christians that prophecy will be fore filled as well. The fundamentals of reading the bible are to learn it’s meaning without distorting the truth. While you try to disprove JW’s you have disproved all religion. Perhaps then, Atheism or Evolution would be more to your liking. Maybe that way as Jesus Said, Judge not as they know not what they do, oh!! God, and the parable of Matthew apply in MT 15:14

    The Parable of the Blind Leading the Blind

    1568
    Tempera on canvas,
    Museo Nazionale di Capodimonte, Naples

    It was only later that Bruegel's pictures received their titles; they have since undergone change in the course of the centuries, most of the works being known today under a number of names. That given this work - which is also known as The Fall of the Blind - refers to Christ's parable concerning the Pharisees (Matthew 15:14): "And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."

    In the parable of the blind leading the blind Christ was illustrating in readily appreciable physical form a spiritual condition — inner blindness to true religion. Bruegel gives visual expression to Christ's words in this truly tragic image. The frieze-like procession of the large-scale figures of six blind men reaches an agonizing climax in the terrified expression of the second, who is falling. In contrast to this staggering line of humanity is the church behind them, strong and solid, representing the faith which gives true vision. Once again, in a late work, Bruegel gives a particular and realistic interpretation to a Christian moral.

    The blind were a subject of special fascination to Bruegel. He introduced a group into The Fight between Carnival and Lent and a drawing of 1562 in Berlin also shows a group of three blind people. Other paintings of the blind by Bruegel are mentioned in early inventories. His treatment of them is sympathetic without for a moment being patronizing.

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    Why dont we have a "best of" section for quotes that are being mined. You know, the less familiar, but just as batty things everyone tends to find here.

    Maybe a hashtag or something? #realwtquotes or something like that. I don't know.

  • Pronger1
    Pronger1

    OP, you are ignoring a critical part of the text at Luke 21:8. Jesus is talking about people proclaiming to be Christ.... "I am he", and not to follow those people.

  • wizzstick
    wizzstick

    OP, you are ignoring a critical part of the text at Luke 21:8. Jesus is talking about people proclaiming to be Christ.... "I am he", and not to follow those people.

    There are two things that Luke 21:8 people saying am I he AND the due time is here.

    You can't suggest that one is more critical that the other.

    And JW's certainly do claim that the due time is here.

    Bloody false prophets!

  • Pronger1
    Pronger1

    You can't break up scripture like that to fit your agenda. It is clearly about false Messiahs claiming to be Jesus. The scripture uses AND not OR.

  • Pronger1
    Pronger1

    I want to clarify that I firmly believe the GB are false prophets. Just that this particular use of Luke 21:8 will be easily dismissed by a JW. They will claim the GB never says they are Christ.

  • wizzstick
    wizzstick

    There is nothing to suggest Jesus was saying to look out for being who say those two things together.

    He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.

    Plenty of people have claimed to be Jesus; does it follow that if they don't claim it is the due time they are worth listening to?

    And note the use of quotation marks around the statements. Even the NWT has them. If it was one statement it would read:

    For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he, and the time is near.'

    Then you might have a point.

    But it doesn't.

  • scary21
    scary21

    Does it have to mean they are claiming to be Jesus ? It says "they come in my name ", or :they come on the basis of my name "(authority ) and claim to be HE........NOT,,, claim to ME (Jesus ) Claim to be he, could that be someone claiming special insight or communication ?

    Just asking Sherry

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    g71

    Old light(TM). They're just imperfect men doing their best. Jehovah(TM) has corrected them since..............and all that baloney.

    In a cult the leader/s always right even when they're wrong. There is no arguing with a cult drone because they are skilled at swithing their mind off if their beliefs are challenged.

    I live in hope that some may wake up as a result of reasoning........................breath not held!

  • RottenRiley
    RottenRiley

    I heard the Watchtower is trying to revise all their blunders in books we all studied in the 1960s and 1970s. I know they are trying to keep the Watchtower CD-ROM as tiny as possible in case of further revisions of the Generation and Blood and Faithful Slave after realizing how little anyone took note of their massive changes.

    Is anyone keeping track of all the historical revising of books that say "The Work will end in the 20th Century"? and other gems like that?

    Is there a reason why I am getting Ads for Adult Gadgets and Porn? As a follower of Jesus I find my Ads appalling, how dare they think I am looking at Porn!

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