Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-19-2014 WT Study (8 DUKES)

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    Billy, I didn't realize you would be doing this. I have been home sick and had time but forgot you doing this. I'm sure yours is better. I was surprised to see how the WTS has primed the rank and file for the 8 DUKES and to slide into the article about elders. I'm so glad to be out.

    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-18-2014 WT Study (NOVEMBER 15, 2013, pages 16-20)(EIGHT DUKES)

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    OPENING COMMENTS

    How many long-time jws ever heard the phrase “eight dukes”? The WTS has been preparing the minds of jws today to understand a concept from the 1930’s when the “elder arrangement” was adjusted and the 1960’s that the other sheep elders are “dukes.” More recently, in 2011, 2010, 2007.

    Another word giving rulership on earth to elders. Dukes, princes, sheiks, chiefs, chieftains, mighty men. Did God plan on a ruling class on earth in Eden? These men will be elders and in control for eternity as they tell us what the messages are from heaven, or they say are from heaven.

    Notice that the WTS uses OT analogies to illustrate the elder arrangement; why not the NT and the Christian congregation? It is no accident that the next article seeks to establish the authority of the elders in the jw congregations.

    *** w11 11/15 p. 32 par. 19 Train Others to Reach Out ***

    Jehovah blesses the efforts of older men to train others. His blessing is also experienced by those who respond and reach out for privileges in the congregation. The Scriptures assure us that among God’s people “seven shepherds, yes, eight dukes”—the required number of capable men—will be raised up to take the lead in Jehovah’s organization. (Mic. 5:5) What a blessing it is that so many Christian men are being trained and are humbly reaching out for privileges of service to Jehovah’s praise!

    *** w10 5/15 p. 24 par. 2 Brothers—Sow to the Spirit and Reach Out! ***

    Such growth creates a need for qualified brothers to take the lead in teaching and shepherding in the congregations. (Eph. 4:11) Over the decades, Jehovah has raised up qualified men to care for the needs of his sheep, and we are confident that he will continue to do so. The prophecy recorded at Micah 5:5 assures us that during the last days, Jehovah’s people will have “seven shepherds” and “eight dukes,” representing a considerable number of capable men to take the lead among them.

    .*** w07 11/1 p. 16 par. 6 Highlights From the Books of Obadiah, Jonah, and Micah ***

    5:5. This Messianic prophecy assures us that when God’s people come under attack by their enemies, “seven [representing completeness] shepherds” and “eight dukes”—a considerable number of capable men—are raised up to take the lead among Jehovah’s people.

    *** w93 1/1 p. 21 pars. 13-14 Shepherding With Our Grand Creator ***

    13 In lands where the preaching work is well established, in lands where restrictions have recently been lifted, and in newly opened territories, Jesus’ words at Matthew 9:37, 38 still apply: “Yes, the harvest is great, but the workers are few. Therefore, beg the Master of the harvest to send out workers into his harvest.” We need to pray, also, that Jehovah will raise up more shepherds. He has demonstrated that he can do this. Before and during World War II, cruel Assyrianlike dictators tried to stamp out Jehovah’s Witnesses. But in answer to their prayers, Jehovah refined their organization, making it truly theocratic, and provided the needed “shepherds.” This was in line with the prophecy: “As for the Assyrian, when he comes into our land and when he treads upon our dwelling towers, we shall also have to raise up against him seven shepherds, yes, eight dukes of mankind”—even more than a sufficiency of dedicated elders to take the lead.—Micah 5:5.

    And in the mid-90’s the WTS labeled the elders as “sheiks” and “chiefs” and “chieftains.” And “princes” and “mighty men.”

    *** w97 5/15 p. 19 par. 14 Theocratic Administration in the Christian Era ***

    The growing organizational role of the other sheep is also the subject of prophecy. Zechariah foretold that the non-Israelite Philistine would be “like a sheik in Judah.” (Zechariah 9:6, 7) Sheikhs were tribal chiefs, so Zechariah was saying that a former enemy of Israel would adopt true worship and come to be like a tribal chief in the Promised Land. Further, when addressing the Israel of God, Jehovah said: “Strangers will actually stand and shepherd the flocks of you people, and the foreigners will be your farmers and your vinedressers. And as for you, the priests of Jehovah you will be called; the ministers of our God you will be said to be.” (Isaiah 61:5, 6) The “strangers” and “foreigners” are the other sheep. These have been delegated responsibilities so as to shoulder more and more work as the aging anointed remnant finish their earthly course and go to serve in a complete sense as heavenly “priests of Jehovah,” surrounding Jehovah’s throne of majesty as “ministers of our God.”—1 Corinthians 15:50-57; Revelation 4:4, 9-11; 5:9, 10.

    *** w95 7/1 p. 23 par. 14 Dwellers Together in a Restored “Land” ***

    Zechariah did not prophesy that the repentant Philistine would actually be a sheikh in Israel. That would not be proper, since he was not a natural-born Israelite. But he would be like a sheikh, occupying a position of authority comparable to a sheikh. And so it has proved to be. As the remnant of anointed Christians decrease in number and many of those who survive are limited by age, well-trained other sheep take up the slack, as it were. They do not want to supplant their anointed brothers. But the faithful and discreet slave gives them authority as needed in the “land” so that God’s organization can continue to move ahead in an organized way. Such a progressive process is seen in yet another prophecy.

    *** w78 12/1 p. 16 par. 2 Wise, Discreet and Experienced Men to Guide God’s People ***

    Sheiks of Arabian peoples were also tribal elders, for the Arabic word sheikh means simply “elder,” or “older man.” (Gen. 36:15).

    SEVEN SHEPHERDS,

    EIGHT DUKES

    WHAT THEY MEAN

    FOR US TODAY

    “We shall also have to

    raise up against him

    seven shepherds,

    yes, eight dukes of

    mankind.”—MIC. 5:5.

    CAN YOU ANSWER?

    How did Hezekiah, Isaiah,

    Micah, and the princes

    of Jerusalem prove to be

    fine shepherds in the

    eighth century B.C.E.?

    Who correspond to the seven

    shepherds and eight dukes

    today? In what ways?

    What is the most important

    thing that you can do now to

    prepare for any future attack

    on God’s people?

    START OF ARTICLE

    1. Why was the plot of the Syro-Israelite league bound to fail?

    SOMETIME between 762 B.C.E. and 759 B.C.E., the

    king of Israel and the king of Syria declared war on

    the kingdom of Judah. Their goal? To invade Jerusalem,

    remove King Ahaz from the throne, and replace

    him with another man, perhaps one who was not of

    the line of King David. (Isa. 7:5, 6) The king of Israel

    should have known better. Jehovah had decreed

    that one of David’s descendants would occupy His

    throne permanently, and God’s word never goes unfulfilled.—

    Josh. 23:14; 2 Sam. 7:16.

    No matter if they were an adulterer and murderer like David, or an apostate like Solomon, and a children killer like Manasseh.

    2-4. Explain how Isaiah 7:14, 16 was fulfilled (a) in the eighth

    century B.C.E. (b) in the first century C.E.

    2 At first, the Syro-Israelite alliance seemed to

    have the upper hand. In one battle alone, Ahaz lost

    120,000 valiant fighting men! Maaseiah, “the son of

    the king,” was killed. (2 Chron. 28:6, 7) But Jehovah

    was watching. He remembered his promise to David;

    thus, he sent the prophet Isaiah with a most encouraging

    message.

    I always wondered when Isaiah worshipped since the temple was contaminated with idols and f alse worship.

    3 Isaiah said: “Look! The maiden herself will actually

    become pregnant, and she is giving birth to a

    son, and she will certainly call his name Immanuel.

    . . . Before the boy will know how to reject the

    bad and choose the good, the ground of whose two

    kings you are feeling a sickening dread [Syria and Israel]

    will be left entirely.” (Isa. 7:14, 16) The first part

    of that prophecy is often applied to the birth of the

    Messiah, and rightly so. (Matt. 1:23) However, since

    the “two kings,” the king of Syria and the king of Israel,

    were no longer a threat to Judah in the first century

    C.E., the prophecy about Immanuel must have

    had an initial fulfillment in Isaiah’s day.

    So is the WTS applying it to the first century or now?

    Initial fulfillment…the second one is always on the WTS, the only true religion.

    4 Soon after Isaiah made that remarkable

    announcement, his wife became

    pregnant and bore him a son named

    Maher-shalal-hash-baz. One possibility

    is that this child was the “Immanuel”

    referred to by Isaiah.* In Bible times,

    an infant might be given one name at

    birth, perhaps to commemorate a special

    event, but be known by his parents and

    relatives by another name. (2 Sam. 12:24,

    25) There is no evidence that Jesus was

    ever addressed by the name Immanuel.

    Read Isaiah 7:14; 8:3, 4.

    *The Hebrew word translated “maiden” at Isaiah

    7:14 can mean either a married woman or a virgin.

    Thus, the same word could be applied both to Isaiah’s

    wife and to the Jewish virgin Mary.

    5. What foolish decision did King Ahaz make?

    5 While Israel and Syria were focusing

    on Judah, another nation, a militaristic

    one, had ambitions toward the region.

    It was the rising world power of

    Assyria. According to Isaiah 8:3, 4, Assyria

    would carry off “the resources of

    Damascus” and “the spoil of Samaria”

    before attacking the southern kingdom

    of Judah. Instead of trusting in God’s

    word through Isaiah, faithless Ahaz entered

    into a disastrous pact with the Assyrians,

    which ultimately led to Judah’s

    being oppressed by them. (2 Ki. 16:7-

    10) What a disappointment Ahaz was

    as a shepherd of Judah! We might ask

    ourselves, ‘When I have important decisions

    to make, do I put my trust in God

    or in men?’—Prov. 3:5, 6.

    Does the WTS say to put trust in men?

    *** BEARING WITNESS chap. 13 p. 103 par. 9 “There Had Occurred No Little Dissension” ***

    When serious issues arise today, let us imitate the fine example of the believers in Antioch by trusting God’s organization and its Governing Body of anointed Christians, who represent “the faithful and discreet slave.”—Matt. 24:45.

    A NEW SHEPHERD TAKES

    A DIFFERENT APPROACH

    6. Compare the reigns of Ahaz and Hezekiah.

    6 Ahaz died in 746 B.C.E., and his son

    Hezekiah inherited the materially impoverished

    and spiritually bankrupt kingdom of Judah.

    As the young king ascended

    the throne, what would his priority be?

    To shore up Judah’s ailing economy?

    No. Hezekiah was a spiritual man,

    a worthy shepherd of his national flock.

    His first act was to reestablish pure worship

    and to reinforce the wayward nation’s

    frayed relationship with Jehovah.

    When he understood God’s will for him,

    Hezekiah acted decisively. What a fine

    example for us!—2 Chron. 29:1-19.

    BAD KING = AHAZ

    GOOD KING = HEZEKIAH

    BAD KING = MANASSEH

    Evidently, Hezekiah did not train in son well.

    7. Why was it important for the Levites to be

    assured of the new king’s support?

    7 The Levites would play a vital role

    in the important task of restoring pure

    worship. Therefore, Hezekiah met with

    them to assure them of his support. Picture

    the faithful Levites who were present

    at that meeting, tears of joy streaming

    down their faces as they heard their

    king declare: “You are the ones whom Jehovah

    has chosen to stand before him to

    minister to him.” (2 Chron. 29:11) Yes,

    the Levites had a clear mandate to promote

    pure worship!

    How many Levites were faithful?

    8. What further steps did Hezekiah take to

    shore up the spirituality of the nation, and with

    what result?

    8 Hezekiah invited all of Judah and Israel

    to a great Passover celebration, followed by

    the seven-day Festival of Unfermented

    Cakes. The people enjoyed the

    festival so much that it was extended

    for seven days more. The Bible reports:

    “There came to be great rejoicing in Jerusalem,

    for from the days of Solomon the

    son of David the king of Israel there was

    none like this in Jerusalem.” (2 Chron.

    30:25, 26) What an inspiration that spiritual

    feast proved to be for all the people!

    From 2 Chronicles 31:1, we learn: “As

    soon as they finished all this, . . . they

    proceeded to break up the sacred pillars

    and cut down the sacred poles and pull

    down the high places and the altars.” In

    a mighty way, Judah thus began to turn

    back to Jehovah. This spiritual cleansing

    would be of the utmost importance in

    view of what was to come.

    So jws are going uninvited to the international conventions this year, disobeying the GB. How obedient are they in other things?

    THE KING PREPARES FOR TROUBLE

    9. (a) How were the plans of Israel frustrated?

    (b) Sennacherib had what initial success in Judah?

    9 True to Isaiah’s word, the Assyrians

    conquered the northern kingdom

    of Israel and deported its inhabitants,

    thus frustrating Israel’s plans to place

    a usurper on David’s throne. But what of

    Assyria’s plans? The Assyrians now set

    their sights on Judah. “In the fourteenth

    year of King Hezekiah, Sennacherib the

    king of Assyria came up against all the

    fortified cities of Judah and proceeded

    to seize them.” Reportedly, Sennacherib

    conquered 46 Judean cities in all. Imagine

    how you would have felt if you had

    lived in Jerusalem at that time. One after

    another, Judah’s cities fell before the advancing

    Assyrian armies!—2 Ki. 18:13.

    Jws have more than Sennacherib to worry about; they are told that all the nations and kings have their destruction in mind.

    10. Why might Micah 5:5, 6 have encouraged

    Hezekiah?

    10 Of course, Hezekiah was aware of

    the approaching danger, but rather than

    desperately enlist the help of a pagan nation,

    as his apostate father, Ahaz, had

    done, Hezekiah placed his trust in Jeho-

    vah. (2 Chron. 28:20, 21) He may have

    been aware of the words of the prophet

    Micah, a contemporary who foretold

    concerning Assyria: “As for the Assyrian,

    . . . we shall also have to raise up

    against him seven shepherds, yes, eight

    dukes of mankind. And they will actually

    shepherd the land of Assyria with

    the sword.” (Mic. 5:5, 6) These inspired

    words would surely have encouraged

    Hezekiah, for they show that a most unusual

    army would be raised up against

    the Assyrians and that the hostile aggressors

    would ultimately be defeated.

    So why was Hezekiah so different than Ahaz and later his own son Manasseh?

    Manasseh had seen or heard about the destruction of the Assyrians.

    11. When would the prophecy concerning seven

    shepherds and eight dukes have its primary

    fulfillment?

    11 The prophecy concerning seven

    shepherds and eight dukes (“princes,”

    The New English Bible) was to find its

    primary, or most important, fulfillment

    long after the birth of Jesus, the “ruler in

    Israel, whose origin is from early times.”

    (Read Micah 5:1, 2.) This would be at

    a time when the very existence of Jehovah’s

    servants would be threatened by a

    modern-day “Assyrian.”What forces will

    Jehovah, through his now-reigning Son,

    marshal to confront the fear-inspiring

    foe? We shall see. But first, let us consider

    what we can learn from the action

    Hezekiah took in the face of the Assyrian

    menace.

    Proof that most important fulfillment now?

    Picture: Hezekiah’s words caused

    the people to take heart

    (See paragraphs 12, 13)

    HEZEKIAH TAKES PRACTICAL STEPS

    12. What steps did Hezekiah and those with

    him take to protect God’s people?

    12 Jehovah is always willing to do for

    us what we cannot do for ourselves, but

    he does expect us to do what we can.

    Hezekiah consulted “his princes and his

    mighty men,” and together they decided

    “to stop up the waters of the springs that

    were outside the city . . . Furthermore,

    [Hezekiah] took courage and built up all

    the broken-down wall and raised towers

    upon it, and on the outside another wall,

    . . . and made missiles in abundance

    and shields.” (2 Chron. 32:3-5) In order

    to protect and shepherd His people at

    that time, Jehovah used a number of valiant

    men—Hezekiah, his princes, and the

    spiritually strong prophets.

    So do we know what we can do…does the WTS tell jws?

    Hezekiah built weapons…should jws? Did Hezekiah use any weapons?

    13. What was the most important step that

    Hezekiah took to prepare the people for the

    coming attack? Explain.

    13 What Hezekiah did next was of

    even greater value than stopping up the

    waters or fortifying the city walls. Concerned

    shepherd that he was, Hezekiah

    gathered the people and encouraged

    them spiritually with the words: “Do not

    be afraid nor be terrified because of the

    king of Assyria . . . , for with us there

    are more than there are with him. With

    him there is an arm of flesh, but with

    us there is Jehovah our God to help us

    and to fight our battles.” What a faith strengthening

    reminder—Jehovah would

    fight for his people! Upon hearing this,

    the Jews “began to brace themselves

    upon the words of Hezekiah the king of

    Judah.” Notice that it was “the words of

    Hezekiah” that caused the people to take

    heart. He and his princes and mighty

    men, as well as the prophets Micah and

    Isaiah, proved to be effective shepherds,

    just as Jehovah had foretold through his

    prophet.—2 Chron. 32:7, 8; read Micah 5:

    5, 6.

    So does God protect everyone or only groups?

    *** w08 9/15 p. 9 par. 8 Jehovah Is “the Provider of Escape” for Us ***

    As individuals, we know that our immediate physical protection is not guaranteed. ..Even in Bible times, however, miraculous deliverance was the exception rather than the rule. Many faithful servants of Jehovah died at the hands of opposers.—Heb. 11:35-37.

    14. What role did Rabshakeh play, and how

    did the people react?

    14 The king of Assyria set up camp at

    Lachish, southwest of Jerusalem. From

    there, through three envoys, he ordered

    the city to surrender. His spokesman,

    whose official title was Rabshakeh, used

    a variety of tactics. Speaking in Hebrew,

    he urged the people to betray the king

    and to submit to the Assyrians, falsely

    promising to relocate them to a land

    where they could enjoy a comfortable

    life. (Read 2 Kings 18:31, 32.) Then Rabshakeh

    asserted that just as the gods

    of the nations had been unable to protect

    their worshippers, so Jehovah would

    be unable to deliver the Jews out of the

    Assyrians’ clutches. Wisely, the people

    did not try to respond to the slanderous

    propaganda, a course often followed

    by Jehovah’s servants in our day.—Read

    2 Kings 18:35, 36.

    So do jws respond to what they consider slanderous propaganda?

    15. What was required of the inhabitants of Jerusalem,

    and how did Jehovah bring salvation

    to the city?

    15 Hezekiah was understandably upset,

    but instead of turning to a foreign

    power for help, he sent for Isaiah the

    prophet. Isaiah told Hezekiah: “He [Sennacherib]

    will not come into this city nor

    will he shoot an arrow there.” (2 Ki. 19:

    32) All that was required of the inhabitants

    of Jerusalem was that they stand

    their ground. Jehovah would fight for Judah.

    And fight he did! “It came about

    on that night that the angel of Jehovah

    proceeded to go out and strike down

    a hundred and eighty-five thousand in

    the camp of the Assyrians.” (2 Ki. 19:

    35) Judah’s salvation came, not by Hezekiah’s

    stopping up the fountains of waters

    of the city nor by his building up its

    walls, but by divine intervention.

    Will jws stand their ground; especially if their individual protection is not guaranteed?

    *** w12 5/15 p. 22 Questions From Readers ***

    Psalm 116:15 assures us that Jehovah will not allow his loyal servants as a group to be entirely removed from the earth. In fact, our modern-day history chronicles our endurance of severe trials and persecution, thus furnishing clear evidence that God will never permit us to be exterminated.

    Because of his limitless power and unfailing purpose, Jehovah will not allow us to be swept out of existence as a group.

    *** w12 7/15 pp. 25-26 par. 14 “Of Whom Shall I Be in Dread?” ***

    Jehovah has promised to help, protect, and deliver his people, as a group, physically and spiritually, and we trust in him. (Ps. 37:28; 91:1-3) The crowd that survive “the great tribulation” must indeed be great. (Rev. 7:9, 14) Thus that crowd, as a group, will be shielded from extinction throughout the remainder of the last days.

    LESSONS FOR TODAY

    16. Who today are represented by (a) Jerusalem’s

    citizens (b) “the Assyrian” (c) the seven

    shepherds and eight dukes?

    16 The prophecy about seven shepherds

    and eight dukes has its major fulfillment

    in our day. The citizens of ancient

    Jerusalem were attacked by the

    Assyrians. In the near future, Jehovah’s

    apparently vulnerable people will come

    under attack from the modern-day “Assyrian,”

    whose intent will be to wipe

    them out. The Scriptures refer to that

    attack as well as the attack of ‘Gog of

    Magog,’ the attack of “the king of the

    north,” and the attack of “the kings of

    the earth.” (Ezek. 38:2, 10-13; Dan. 11:40,

    44, 45; Rev. 17:14; 19:19) Do these represent

    separate attacks? Not necessarily.

    The Bible could be referring to the same

    attack under different names. What ‘secret

    weapon’ does Micah’s prophecy indicate

    Jehovah would raise up against

    that implacable foe—“the Assyrian”? A

    very unlikely one—“seven shepherds,

    yes, eight dukes”! (Mic. 5:5) The shepherds

    and dukes (or, “princes,” NEB) in

    this implausible army are the congregation

    elders. (1 Pet. 5:2) Today, Jehovah

    certainly has provided an abundance of

    spiritual men to shepherd his precious

    sheep, to strengthen his people for the

    future attack of the modern-day “Assyrian.”*

    Micah’s prophecy states that they

    will “shepherd the land of Assyria with

    the sword.” (Mic. 5:6) Yes, among ‘the

    weapons of their warfare,’ you will find

    “the sword of the spirit,” God’s Word.

    —2 Cor. 10:4; Eph. 6:17.

    * The number seven is used frequently in the

    Scriptures to signify completion. The number eight

    (one more than seven) sometimes represents an

    abundance.

    I wonder if Russia knows that somehow the WTS will see that they are destroyed?

    17. What four conclusions can the elders draw

    from the account we have considered?

    17 Elders who are reading this article

    can draw some useful conclusions from

    the account we have just considered:

    (1) The most practical step that we can

    take to prepare for the coming attack of

    “the Assyrian” is that of strengthening

    our faith in God and helping our brothers

    to do the same. (2) When “the Assyrian”

    attacks, the elders must be absolutely

    convinced that Jehovah will

    deliver us. (3) At that time, the lifesaving

    direction that we receive from

    Jehovah’s organization may not appear

    practical from a human standpoint. All

    of us must be ready to obey any instructions

    we may receive, whether these appear

    sound from a strategic or human

    standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time

    for any who may be putting their trust

    in secular education, material things, or

    human institutions to adjust their thinking.

    The elders must stand ready to help

    any who may now be wavering in their

    faith.

    1. How many elders feel/felt that talks from the platform were more important that individual help and a good example?

    2. Do elders follow directions from the GB consistently?

    3. ***

      MOST IMPORTANT STRANGE POINT….TRUST MEN OR GOD?

    At that time, the lifesaving

    direction that we receive from

    Jehovah’s organization may not appear

    practical from a human standpoint. All

    of us must be ready to obey any instructions

    we may receive, whether these appear

    sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

    4) putting their trust

    in secular education, material things, or

    human institutions to adjust their thinking.

    18. How might reflecting on this account benefit us in the future?

    18 The time will come when God’s

    modern-day servants will appear to be

    just as vulnerable as the Jews trapped

    inside Jerusalem in Hezekiah’s day. At

    that time, may all of us draw strength

    from Hezekiah’s words. Let us remember

    that with our enemies “there is an

    arm of flesh, but with us there is Jehovah

    our God to help us and to fight our battles”!—

    2 Chron. 32:8.

    God’s servants – only jws

    Doesn’t the NT say that Jesus will fight? Why no mention even?

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Next week, OBEY JEHOVAH’S SHEPHERDS….

    Who shepherds/adjust the elders? Relationship with God or Jesus? Where’s Jesus in this picture?

    Love, Blondie

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    Comments from Billy and Blondie on this article, nice job!

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Heya Blondie!

    Classes started this week so I hadn't been around much to confirm with you whether I'd follow through on my promise. I just wanted to make extra sure that this mess of an OT article got hit HARD!

    Jesus and the NT really get thrown under the bus with this article. It's all about the cult agenda in this one.

  • heathen
    heathen

    Since they aren't making claims as to being a prophet or spirit inspired why should anyone take them seriously ? They can't even get the FDS dogma straight one minute they are apointed the next they aren't . i doubt seven dukes has anything to do with elders since they did away with the elder arrangement , this may be speaking of the last of the LF as they will provide spiritual guidance , the church leaders I've dealt with I wouldn't trust in any kind of bind they are clueless nit wits , I've even heard one boast he had as much holy spirit as the LF ... complete blaspheme . what I will find interesting is how the people that avoid the mark of the beast get around it ... They must have some well stocked fall out shelter that's entirely off the grid .

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    This merely demonstrates that joke-hova was willing to either help one person (Hezekiah) or the group as a whole, or to write a story about it. Either way, its purpose is to get people to trust joke-hova as that thing leads us into mass slavery. When things get critical, people are to remember what happened to Hezekiah and assume it will also happen to them. When it doesn't, it will be too late by the time they learn. And notice that joke-hova only protected the group (which, back then, was the Jewish people). Now, does that mean joke-hova only protects the organization today? We are destitute, we are miserable, we are headed for enslavement, so we should disown ourselves and focus only on the organization that is rich and our master?

  • KiddingMe
    KiddingMe

    Thanks! Marked.

  • NeverKnew
    NeverKnew

    Great Job Blondie! :)

    Doesn’t the NT say that Jesus will fight? Why no mention even?

    Loved that...

  • watson
    watson

    Wow, paragraph 17 is impressive.

  • watson
  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Par 16: 'The shepherds and dukes (or, “princes,” NEB) in this implausible army are the congregation elders. (1 Pet. 5:2) Today, Jehovah

    certainly has provided an abundance of spiritual mento shepherd his precious sheep, to strengthen his people for the future attack.....'

    Yah, right an abundance of spiritual men! These are the same elders who have a tough time getting along with one another.

    These are the same elders who spend a great deal of time at the local donut shop fattening themselves up instead of taking the spiritual lead in the door-knocking work!

    Yah, right spiritual men!

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