Armageddon question

by caroline77 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • blondie

    The billions, men, women and children, that are executed at Armageddon, will not be resurrected per the WTS, but will descend into eternal death.

  • caroline77

    I'm a little confused, blondie.

    Do they believe that the 6billion who are killed will all be raised to carry on as normal, or that they will all stay dead?

  • notsurewheretogo

    Anyone executed at the hands of Jehoover will not be brought those in the flood...those in Jerusalem at 70 CE...those at the Big A (7 billion of them)...ALL OF THEM...not brought back...only those who died in ignorance or not at the hands of Jehoover will be brought back...

  • blondie

    No all non-jws at Armageddon (according to the WTS) will all be executed without any hope of being resurrected.

    Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil. (The Watchtower, September 1, 1989, p. 19)

  • caroline77

    Thanks, Blondie. That link was interesting. I note that in the paragraphs under 'children' it says that only those who have the mark on their foreheads will be saved. I thought the mark in the forehead was linked with Babylon! Rev 14 v 8 & 9.

  • Comatose

    Thanks, Blondie. That link was interesting. I note that in the paragraphs under 'children' it says that only those who have the mark on their foreheads will be saved. I thought the mark in the forehead was linked with Babylon! Rev 14 v 8 & 9.

    There is your problem! No thinking allowed.

  • blondie

    The mark is

    *** w08 7/15 pp. 5-6 par. 11 The House-to-House Ministry—Why Important Now? ***By means of the preaching and disciple-making work, the anointed class puts a symbolic mark on those who become part of Christ’s “other sheep.” (John 10:16) What is the mark? It is the evidence, as if displayed on their uncovered foreheads, that such sheep are dedicated, baptized disciples of Jesus Christ and that they have put on the Christlike new personality. (Eph. 4:20-24)

    *** w96 1/15 p. 17 par. 9 Jehovah’s Sheep Need Tender Care ***If they agree that the unbaptized publisher has a reasonable understanding of Bible teachings and qualifies in other ways, they will tell him that he may be baptized. As a result of his dedication and baptism, he becomes ‘marked’ for salvation.—Ezekiel 9:4-6.

    *** w88 11/15 p. 17 par. 10 Helping Others to Worship God ***An announcement that he is a new unbaptized publisher can be made to the congregation. He should continue studying the Bible, participating in the meetings, applying what he learns, and sharing it with others. Before long, he will want to take the step of Christian baptism, thus becoming approved by God and ‘marked’ for salvation.—Ezekiel 9:4-6.

    *** km 10/87 p. 8 par. 7 Help Others to Dedication and Baptism ***Only those ‘marked’ for salvation will survive into Jehovah’s new system. (Ezek. 9:2-6) How happy those who submit to this ‘marking’ for survival will be because of their dedicated relationship with Jehovah God, as symbolized by water baptism!

  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    Well, the battle of Armageddon most likely is the Jehovah's Witnesses’ biggest and most enduring doctrinal blunders. This is reflected not only in the comments here but in the ignorant writings of the Watchtower staff writers, none of whom has the slightest idea what Jewish and Christian prophecy is all about.

    Even the Muslims have a better understanding of this last great battle of mankind. But their prophecies have the unique property of being directly inverted with Christian beliefs. In other words, the Bible’s good guys are Islam’s bad guys and vice versa. Evangelical scholar Joel Richardson has written on this extensively (see the incredible segment of his book, The Islamic Antichrist, which is itself a great repudiation of JW eschatology). Armageddon is one of the greatest events that will happen sometime in our day. There are a number of things that have to occur first, but much of it already has happened. Once the “Beast” of Revelation appears, followed shortly by the “false prophet,” things will begin fairly quickly. He may or may not have a hand in building the third Jewish temple, but the scriptures are clear that he will occupy it and profane it. But the temple must be built and profaned before Armageddon can come. Also, one thing Richardson ignores, sadly, is that two prophets also must be called. For three and a half years they will protect the Jews from the ravages of the Beast. After that, both will be killed and their bodies left on the streets of the city. (See Revelation 11) Days later, the Lord will appear in heaven and descend upon the Mount of Olives. The two prophets will be physically resurrected and ascend to meet the coming Christ.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t like to be told that they spend too much time reading their publications instead of the scriptures, but some of you old timers know that they weren’t always like that. Jehovah’s Witnesses used to know the scriptures. Their Bibles were well worn and, frankly, they weren’t warring with themselves.


  • heathen

    In revelaiton it does say that all those with the mark of the beast will be destroyed , nobody knows exactly what it is , mainstreamers think it's the RFID chip , WTBTS thinks it's symbolic or perhaps a political card in support of the NWO . Armageddon tho is actually a spiritual war between the saints and church under christ jesus and the world political powers that oppose the kingdom work and are under satanic control . The great fear inspiring day of GOD almighty is after the last saint is martyred .

  • Jeffro


    Who do JW's think is going to kill everyone at Armageddon?

    Jehovah and his other invisible friends, Jesus and the angels, will apparently do the killing. Using time-honoured methods like storms and earthquakes, and maybe "antimatter" according to some old issues of The Watchtower.

    How will it happen?

    It's all very vague (as is most bad fiction), but apparently after the nations 'ban religion', then they'll attack JWs (who for some reason they save for last), and just before they do, Jehovah does a magic thing.

    What is their evidence?


    Who will be resurrected afterwards? Only JW's?

    Supposedly there may be many 'righteous and unrighteous' resurrected people who died before Armageddon, including people who died throughout history before JWs existed, but no one who dies during Armageddon. Exactly who from thoughout history is entirely speculative.

    According to the JW website, only JWs and those who "may yet take a stand for Bible truth" (= 'become JWs') will actually survive Armageddon.

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