I can prove that God does not exist.

by LucidSky 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • LucidSky

    Just thinking...

    I can believe that a Higher Intelligence Entity (HIE) cannot be proven. I am willing to accept that a HIE cannot even be definitively induced, even for marvels that we cannot demonstrate at this time (e.g. natural transformation of elements into living material). We could always invoke a HIE for anything unexplainable, but it is always only a hypothesis.

    What evidence is there against a HIE? If all laws and events are derived from natural causes, it would be a strong proof, but still not conclusive. How can we decide if all laws and events are "natural"? What does that even mean? To prove a HIE does not exist, we must show that there is no possibility that it can exist.

    This is where I believe I am stuck. I am within a system, attempting to disprove the existence of something outside that known system. At best I can speculate that something is indeed there or not. However, for me to accurately evaluate this external factor, I would need to either be external to the system or be omniscient. Of course if I was either of those, I'd probably be a HIE. I'm not.

    So I can't prove that a HIE exists after all. Can I?

    LucidSky -- Desperately searching for answers and finding only more questions.

  • Frenchy

    ...so the the title of your post is...shall we say...somewhat not accurate?

  • butalbee

    Lucid, darling, now that we've all seen your feet, let's see the rest of ya...

  • LucidSky
    ...so the the title of your post is...shall we say...somewhat not accurate?

    True. I meant it to be an ironic twist.

  • Elsewhere

    I can't help but think of the movie Tron where the programs were debating whether the Users really did exist or not.

    All we have to do is get around that damn mainframe program that is blocking our access!!! [>:(][>:(][>:(]

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
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  • LucidSky

    Why is it I spend decades coming to realizations such as these, and only get one interesting response? Damn those "someone/thing is looking at me" threads.

  • Kenneson

    Tell me, if God is just an empty word, what exactly are you
    talking about?

  • Realist

    there is plenty of evidence that the bible is NOT gods word but merely a bogus book written by some guys 2600 years ago.
    about god:
    you are absolutely right...there is neither evidence for nor against his existence, so its a matter of preference if you want to believe in him or not. i prefer to remain neutral (agnostic) ... if he exists fine and if not fine too.

  • Satanus


    To state a possible answer to your question: what may or may not fill the empty word (god).

    Really though, if there is a god, the word/symbol/image is a blockage to a direct understanding/perception of what it really is. Therefore, to be free of polution from preconcieved ideas, one branch of buddhism has discouraged the use if the term in their quest for 'god'.


  • SYN

    Go look up the Godell Theorem of Incompleteness.

    Seven006: "Have you tried drugs? Shooting up a little heroin might do the trick, it's hard to type when your stoned out of your mind. I don't know how TR does it!"

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